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Hovering over Rome: The Ghost of Martin Luther
The Catholic World Report ^ | March 16, 2016 | Allessandra Nucci

Posted on 03/17/2016 7:49:46 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

No apologies necessary. I pay no mind to heretics who tell me who lives in my head.


61 posted on 03/17/2016 10:45:14 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Like Luther, you appear to succumb to the sin of presumption.

No Luther added. Scripture alone is the authority.

62 posted on 03/17/2016 10:45:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: ebb tide
Well, if Hell is quite full, there's no room for the rest of us.

Yeah, about that... I wouldn't count on that if I were you. I'd turn to Christ alone today and get eternal life. If not, that's on you, bro.

63 posted on 03/17/2016 10:46:18 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: ebb tide

Hah! Well, played sir!


64 posted on 03/17/2016 10:46:44 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Scripture speaks of confession.

How do you get around that?


65 posted on 03/17/2016 10:47:41 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; ebb tide

Shake the dust from your sandals, AMPU.
God has better things for us to do...

We may yet see ebb tide in heaven, I’ll give him that. If I do, I’ll give him a fist-bump, a high-five and maybe a slap on his ass!


66 posted on 03/17/2016 10:50:47 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; MHGinTN; Syncro; Elsie; boatbums
Watch how many would rather condemn a deceased man than to come to Christ for eternal life.

Yes, it IS incredible isn't it? I have assurance of salvation. If that means I am committing the sin of presumption, then I wlll gladly commit that sin.
If others do not have, or maybe don't want any assurance of salvation, well, all I can say is, that's on them. The offer is readily available.
People should be aware, that it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Heb10:31 Committing the sin of presumption again, I am glad many of us do not have to fear meeting Him. Maranatha bro. 😄😇

67 posted on 03/17/2016 11:13:53 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: Mark17
I have assurance of salvation.

Who assured you of that? And when did they do so?

68 posted on 03/17/2016 11:27:04 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Yeah, about that... I wouldn't count on that if I were you.

According to Isaiah 5:14, Hell can enlarge itself to acomodate all the new arrivals. I am convinced there are HUGE, GIGANTIC numbers of people going there EVERYDAY.
I wish they wouldn't, but Jesus paid the price.
Remember, God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. He would rather they be saved. Ezekiel 33:11.

69 posted on 03/17/2016 11:37:15 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: ebb tide

“Scripture speaks of confession.”

I don’t “get around it.”


70 posted on 03/17/2016 11:49:21 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
There is not a single thing in me that contributed anything to my salvation or sainthood. Only the sacrifice of Christ paid for who I was and what I did.

That said, Scripture tells us this is true of all humans.

In other words, you're saying all humans go the Heaven.

71 posted on 03/17/2016 11:50:14 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“Shake the dust from your sandals, AMPU.

I do know that the Holy Sporit alone opens hearts to the Gospel of grace.

All I can do is witness to the truth and allow Him to work as He chooses.


72 posted on 03/17/2016 11:52:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: ebb tide

“other words, you’re saying all humans go the Heaven.”

No I am not.


73 posted on 03/17/2016 11:53:14 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: ebb tide; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; MHGinTN; Elsie; Cletus.D.Yokel
Who assured you of that?

God.

Anyone can have assurance of salvation. If people don't have it, that's on them.
You can believe whatever you like bro. Obviously, I do not agree with your theology, as I can believe whatever I like too.

Hey Cletus, is there any excess dirt on your shoes? 😆

74 posted on 03/17/2016 11:57:59 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: Mark17

Are you Moses?


75 posted on 03/17/2016 11:59:58 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
we'll see.

Since you now, it seems to me, allow that Luther may not be in the kingdom after all, your theology is not completely dependent on him being saved.

76 posted on 03/17/2016 12:03:52 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mark17
...as I can believe whatever I like too.

As do muslims, hindus, buddhists, pagans, etc.

77 posted on 03/17/2016 12:06:43 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; Mark17
Mark: I have assurance of salvation.

et: Who assured you of that? And when did they do so?

Here, in the book that HE gave us where HE tells us what He wants us to know.

God promised and from Him who cannot lie, we can KNOW that we have what He promised us we would have as His children.

He is faithful and all His promises are *Yes* and *Amen* in Christ.

It impugns God's integrity for men to disbelieve Him or say that He didn't mean what He said. It is in effect, calling God a liar, and we know that God can't lie.

Security of the believer.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:37-39 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.

John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”

Romans 4:16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham's offspring-not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.

1 Corinthians 1:4-8 I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus,that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge—even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among you—so that you are not lacking in any gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 1:21-22 And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

2 Corinthians 5:4-8 For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened—not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.

So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Philippians 1:6 And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Colossians 2:13-14 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

1 Peter 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Hebrews 6:17-20 So when God desired to show more convincingly to the heirs of the promise the unchangeable character of his purpose, he guaranteed it with an oath, so that by two unchangeable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled for refuge might have strong encouragement to hold fast to the hope set before us. We have this as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul, a hope that enters into the inner place behind the curtain, where Jesus has gone as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.

Jude v24"Now unto Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy"

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

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2 Corinthians 1:21-22 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

For which the Greek, from the Byzantine, is:

2Corinthians 1:21-22 ο δε βεβαιων ημας συν υμιν εις χριστον και χρισας ημας θεος ο και σφραγισαμενος ημας και δους τον αρραβωνα του πνευματος εν ταις καρδιαις ημων

The first word in bold above is “bebaion,” the idea of confirmation, frequently used in commercial settings to confirm a bargain. Which of course makes sense of the remaining terms used here, which are also elements of a secured contract.

The second word in bold above is “sphragisamenos,” being sealed is to be marked by the signature, signet ring, or other unique proof of identity, that we belong to God, and this sealing is done by God, who is the one taking action in this verse. We do not and cannot seal ourselves. We do not, by our own powers, have access to God’s “signet ring.”

The third bolded word above is “arrabona,” and indicates what we might loosely refer to as earnest money, but in Hebrew culture conveys more the idea of a pledge of covenant, a security given as a guarantee that the deal will go through, though we only receive part payment at the beginning. See ערב for the related Hebrew stem indicating “pledge.”

78 posted on 03/17/2016 12:08:03 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Only the Holy Spirit can convince the unbeliever. We can only speak the Gospel and let “the wind blow where it may”.

Not that I think ebb tide is an unbeliever. The Spirit is working there.

We are called as purveyors of the Gospel. I’d prefer to not get bogged down in the minutia of “Lutheran” apologetics for those who would not prefer to listen. That doesn’t mean they aint Lutheran...they just don’t know it yet.
:-)


79 posted on 03/17/2016 12:08:04 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: Mark17

:: Hey Cletus, is there any excess dirt on your shoes? ::

Funny you should ask. I have long ago understood this apologetical imperative. I waste little time with those who “have ears” yet, “do not hear”.

That doesn’t mean they are condemned as the Spirit Himself continues his work in all souls.

John 3:16 says, “that who so ever would believe”. Good enough for me!


80 posted on 03/17/2016 12:13:46 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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