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Pope Francis v. St. Thomas More: Pope to Express Gifts of Protetant Revolt and Ask Forgiveness
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | June 3, 2016 | Michael Matt

Posted on 06/03/2016 4:50:00 PM PDT by ebb tide

This just in from NCR: "Pope Francis’ visit to Lund, Sweden, to commemorate the 500th anniversary of the Reformation will comprise “two parts” beginning with a “common prayer” service in Lund's Lutheran cathedral and continuing with a public event at Malmö Arena that will be open to wider participation, Vatican and Lutheran leaders have announced.

"In a joint statement issued today by the Lutheran World Federation (LWF) and the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, they reiterated that the Oct. 31 event will be centered on the themes of “thanksgiving, repentance and commitment to common witness".

It also said the overall aim of the ecumenical event “is to express the gifts of the Reformation and ask forgiveness for division perpetuated by Christians from the two traditions.” READ ARTICLE HERE

REMNANT COMMENT: Ah, yes, the 'gifts of the Reformation' -- such as the tearing in half of holy Christendom. The beginning of the end of the Holy Roman Empire. The destruction of the Catholic state. The loss of millions of souls who fell victim to the vile heresies of Martin Luther.

And let's not forget to ask forgiveness for the great saints who gave their lives in defense of Holy Mother Church under vicious assault of Protestant 'reformers.' Thomas More, for example, used the Greek term “anarchos” to describe the Protestant Revolt. He believed that the “whole great change of European consciousness in the sixteenth century was due to the hatred that they [Protestants] bear to all good order and the great hunger they have to make [everything] disordered.”

You see, poor Thomas More didn't think 'making a mess' was a particularly good idea. He regarded Lutherans as “daemonun satellites” (“agents of demons”), in fact, who had to be stopped before they brought civilized society to ruin.

In his book, The Life of Thomas More, Peter Akroyd explains: "This was no longer a time for questioning, or innovation, or uncertainty of any kind. He [More] blamed Luther for the Peasants’ Revolt in Germany, and maintained that all its havoc and destruction were the direct result of Luther’s challenge to the authority of the church; under the pretext of “libertas” Luther preached “licentia,” which had in turn led to rape, sacrilege, bloodshed, fire and ruin."

And why not? Of the Mass of his own priestly ordination, beloved liturgy of his fathers and forefathers, saints and martyrs, for a thousand years, Luther hisses: "I declare that all the brothels…all the manslaughters, murders, thefts and adulteries have wrought less abomination than the popish Mass."

This from one who, by his own admission, was “inspired”—while on his toilet, no less—with the certainty that the Church was the great Whore of Babylon, that four of her seven Sacraments were abominations, as were her priesthood, celibacy, papacy and monastic life. On his toilet, Luther figured it out—all that’s needed is Faith alone…and the laws of Christianity be damned!

“Be a sinner and sin on bravely,” said Luther, “but have stronger faith and rejoice in Christ, who is the victory of sin, death, and the world. Do not for a moment imagine that this life is the abiding place of justice: sin must be committed… sin cannot tear you away from Him, even though you commit adultery a hundred times a day and commit as many murders.”

Compare these words to similar ones written by the Satanist Aleister Crowley: "Are we walking in eternal fear lest some 'sin' should cut us off from 'grace'? By no means…Live as the kings and princes, crowned and uncrowned, of this world, have always lived, as masters always live… make your self-indulgence your religion…When you drink and dance and take delight, you are not being 'immoral,' you are not 'risking your immortal soul'; you are fulfilling the precepts of our holy religion [Satanism]…Is not this better than [to] go oppressed by consciousness of 'sin,' wearily seeking or simulating wearisome and tedious 'virtues'?"

Protestantism, Satanism, Freemasonry—these were but brothers-in-arms in the ancient war against the holy Church, a war fomented by agents of disorder. Even some of Luther’s friends readily admitted that the “Reformation” was anarchistic.

For example, the ex-priest Martin Bucer, who’d benefited from Luther’s moral dispensations where an ex-nun and his vows were concerned, nevertheless admits: "The whole Reformation was one grand indulgence for libertinism. The greater part of the people seems only to have embraced the gospel in order to shake off the yoke of discipline and the obligation of fasting and penance, which rested upon them in popery, and that they may live according to their own pleasure, enjoying their lusts and lawless appetites without control. That was the reason they lent a willing ear to the teaching of justification by faith alone and not by good works, for the latter of which they had no relish."

It is no wonder that Erasmus (who also advocated reform) would write: “Lutheranism has but two objects at heart—money and women.”

And now Pope Francis is heading off to Sweden to commemorate what Martin Bucer called 'one grand indulgence for libertinism" and St. Thomas More condemned as the demonic project of the Antichrist himself -- the Protestant Revolt.

God help us, what is the matter with this man!


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: francischurch; martinluther; thomasmore
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1 posted on 06/03/2016 4:50:00 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Is the Pope Catholic?


2 posted on 06/03/2016 4:53:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: ebb tide

Maybe he’s feeling the “muslim love” and wants to reach out to the other Christian denominations for help, given we’re all cherished, er, I mean despised by the muzz.


3 posted on 06/03/2016 4:53:57 PM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: ebb tide

“The Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity”. I could see this promoting a one world religion to go along with a one world government.


4 posted on 06/03/2016 5:04:23 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: john drake

The only ones that will reach back are those that are liberal infestations themselves that love false unity more than true unity.

My denomination will not.


5 posted on 06/03/2016 5:07:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide

Worst Pope in many centuries, and in some respects, the worst Pope of all time. Pray for a speedy death.


6 posted on 06/03/2016 5:08:50 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ebb tide

Thank God for the Reformation and blessed Father Luther, who was an instrument in recovering the Gospel of Grace.

I am always amazed at how in history and in life, God uses flawed men and women to accomplish His purposes.

“Thanks be to God for his indescribable gift!”

2 Corinthians 9:15


7 posted on 06/03/2016 5:16:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: ebb tide

“Lutheranism has but two objects at heart—money and women.”

“Catholicism has but two objects at heart—money and young boys.”


8 posted on 06/03/2016 5:22:46 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: ebb tide
Further reflections on the abomination du jour
9 posted on 06/03/2016 5:32:19 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: SGNA; ebb tide
Working link for above comment on this story
10 posted on 06/03/2016 5:36:10 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: PetroniusMaximus

What a disgusting, vile comment. The incidence of sexual abuse among Catholic priests is LOWER than among other professions, including non-Catholic clergy. There is no SPECIAL abuse problem in Catholicism.


11 posted on 06/03/2016 5:53:59 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ebb tide; Elsie
For example, the ex-priest Martin Bucer, who’d benefited from Luther’s moral dispensations where an ex-nun and his vows were concerned, nevertheless admits: "The whole Reformation was one grand indulgence for libertinism. The greater part of the people seems only to have embraced the gospel in order to shake off the yoke of discipline and the obligation of fasting and penance, which rested upon them in popery, and that they may live according to their own pleasure, enjoying their lusts and lawless appetites without control. That was the reason they lent a willing ear to the teaching of justification by faith alone and not by good works, for the latter of which they had no relish."

Wow. Just. Wow.

Perhaps we need the naughty list of popes.

While we're at it the list of pedophile priests would be interesting also.

and the obligation of fasting and penance,

More false teachings by catholicism.

enjoying their lusts and lawless appetites without control.

I've seen so many drunk catholics in my life it isn't funny.

betcha there have been a whole bunch of catholic boys and girls doing things they shouldn't also.

That was the reason they lent a willing ear to the teaching of justification by faith alone and not by good works, for the latter of which they had no relish."

Well it's a good thing Paul didn't feel this way....oh wait.

8For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. Eph 2:8-10

12 posted on 06/03/2016 6:00:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

In my days at Fordham I had the privilege of meeting one great Lutheran cleric Richard Neuhaus and having another as professor of Early Christianity, Robert Wilkin. Both men were great intellects, devout in their Faith and tremendously respectful toward mine. Both later converted to Catholicism. It is because of knowing such men that I am disconcerted by the tone of this article. At best it tries to explain the modern relationship between Catholic and Lutheran as if this were still the 16th Century. I thought only Muslims did that.


13 posted on 06/03/2016 6:30:32 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; PetroniusMaximus; ealgeone
I am always amazed at how in history and in life, God uses flawed men and women to accomplish His purposes.

Sure. God used Luther the same way he used Judas, Caiaphas, Herod, Jezebel, etc. And I'm sure God gave them all their just rewards.

14 posted on 06/03/2016 6:38:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

You seem to have left out the flawed men and women God chose to use, like Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Peter, Paul, etc.

... and of course, blessed Father Luther.


15 posted on 06/03/2016 6:53:37 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: ebb tide; aMorePerfectUnion; PetroniusMaximus; ealgeone
>>I am always amazed at how in history and in life, God uses flawed men and women to accomplish His purposes.<,

Sure. God used Luther the same way he used Judas, Caiaphas, Herod, Jezebel, etc. And I'm sure God gave them all their just rewards.

If the catholic would read the Word, they would realize God has always used flawed men and women....because we're all flawed men and women.

Some are better able to realize and admit their flawed nature than others it appears.

16 posted on 06/03/2016 7:11:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I didn’t forget. Luther does not rank with the crowd you mentioned. Nice try, though.


17 posted on 06/03/2016 7:16:32 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
"I didn’t forget. Luther does not rank with the crowd you mentioned. Nice try, though." Oh, I guessed you didn't forget... ...blessed Father Luther the Catholic priest was used to recover the Gospel of Grace, during a dark age of the church. ...Peter brought the Gospel to new groups. ...Paul brought the Gospel to gentiles. ...Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David and Solomon were instruments of God's covenants that brought Messiah to die for mankind. All flawed men God used to spread His glorious gift to the world.
18 posted on 06/03/2016 7:28:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“There is no SPECIAL abuse problem in Catholicism.”

Unfortunately, the cover-up situation seems worse.


19 posted on 06/03/2016 7:28:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

There you go “guessing” again.


20 posted on 06/03/2016 7:44:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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