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What Did the First Living Cell Eat?
Creation Moments Radio Transcripts ^ | 08/18/16 | Creation Moments, et. al

Posted on 08/18/2016 6:34:03 AM PDT by fwdude

Colossians 1:16 "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

Not long ago, I was talking with another creationist about the impossibility of the first living cell coming into being through natural causes from non-living chemicals. I asked him, "Even if such a thing were possible, what would the first living cell eat?" Without missing a beat, my friend said: "Cellery?"

The two of us shared a good laugh together, but I can assure you that the origin of life is no laughing matter to evolutionists. Many evolutionists, in fact, prefer to sidestep the issue completely, asserting that evolution deals only with the origin of different species after that first living cell has somehow come into being.

But have you ever stopped to think about how that first living cell could have survived for even a millisecond? Unless its environment was perfectly suited to sustain that cell's life, it would have died in an instant. Unless the cell had necessary nutrients, it would likewise quickly perish. And unless it had the means to reproduce itself, that first living cell would be the last. Or, perhaps, hundreds of millions of years later, the second living cell would ooze out of a primordial soup of non-living chemicals … and once again die a millisecond later!

No, as the great scientist Louis Pasteur demonstrated in 1859, life comes only from life. Pasteur confirmed what the Bible tells us – that life on Earth came from the living God.

Prayer: Heavenly Father, thank You for continuing to frustrate scientists who believe that life could have come about through natural causes. Reveal to them that life was created by Your Son. In Jesus' Name. Amen.


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: biology; creationism; evolution; origins
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More food for though - which the first cell wouldn't have had. :)
1 posted on 08/18/2016 6:34:03 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Your mama?

—rimshot-—


2 posted on 08/18/2016 6:36:22 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: fwdude

There are some hot dog buns at my local Shell station that have been around since the beginning of time.


3 posted on 08/18/2016 6:37:30 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

And they probably still look fresh, I’ll wager?


4 posted on 08/18/2016 6:39:00 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: fwdude

Kit Kat bars


5 posted on 08/18/2016 6:41:19 AM PDT by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: fwdude

The second living cell?


6 posted on 08/18/2016 6:45:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: fwdude

BBQ ribs, of course.


7 posted on 08/18/2016 6:47:35 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: fwdude

I am getting a headache.


8 posted on 08/18/2016 6:48:06 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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All funny responses, but it's a serious discussion.

The first living cell would have to have ORGANIC sustenance to survive, much more to reproduce. Where/what was it?

9 posted on 08/18/2016 6:51:28 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: fwdude

A Twinkie?


10 posted on 08/18/2016 6:55:00 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: fwdude

They look better than I will at their age, lol.


11 posted on 08/18/2016 6:55:53 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: fwdude

This also reminds me of the transporter beam conundrum. Thing is, if you slice someone up at the molecular level, you have, by definition, killed them. What you get at the other end is another “copy” of the person. But here is the important part: They would be dead as well, since nobody “breathed life” into them. Not a single cell would be alive. Not a single muscle would be alive, though it would be “fresh meat” as you see in the grocery store.

It would be organic, but it would not be alive. Not one single cell would be alive. Every cell would be dead.


12 posted on 08/18/2016 6:56:19 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: fwdude
The 'evil'utionists would argue the first cells were plants and synthesized CO2 and H2O into compounds organic in nature.
13 posted on 08/18/2016 6:57:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fwdude

Amino acids formed by chemical reactions of elements. Basic chemistry really.


14 posted on 08/18/2016 6:57:05 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: fwdude

The solution to the transporter conundrum is that they are inserted into another dimension and pop out of that dimension wherever you choose. That way they remain whole and alive.

I’m working on one of those. So far, I can transport them in, but nothing’s come back yet...


15 posted on 08/18/2016 6:57:42 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: fwdude

The answer to that question is found in another question: “What looks like a bacteria, but isn’t?”

All life on Earth can be subdivided into just three Domains. One of these is bacteria. Another is called Eukaryota, which are all plants and animals. The third Domain is something most people have never heard of.

It is called Archaea. They look like bacteria, but have more in common with plants and animals than they do with bacteria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaea

And they eat things that bacteria do not eat, in places so hostile that bacteria cannot live there. They can live in boiling or freezing water, very acidic or basic places, yet one variety is so ordinary that it lives in the human gut, and actually improves our digestion, indirectly.

And the answer to your question, what do they eat?, is many things that nothing else eats. They can eat methane gas, hydrogen gas, sulfur, carbon, and nitrogen.


16 posted on 08/18/2016 6:59:05 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: fwdude

The Lord certainly fed them in some manner. We have bacteria today that will dine on odd materials such as oil.

There is a lot of theological speculation on what a pre-Fall ecology might have been. We really don’t know it all for 100% certain but can make some plausible guesses. Some statements that are made, like there was no such thing as thermodynamic decay, might be technically wrong — but again there may have existed the capability of thermodynamic regeneration at will. I hate to be dogmatic about this, because the Lord’s wonders quite often turn out to be more wonderful than we might have dreamed.


17 posted on 08/18/2016 7:01:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fwdude

Probably methane.


18 posted on 08/18/2016 7:03:39 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Very curious. I have heard of, and even used, “probiotic” supplements, but never heard of a formulation “containing Archaea.”


19 posted on 08/18/2016 7:03:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fwdude
early bacteria probably consumed naturally occurring amino acids. Amino acids, sugars, and other organic compounds formed spontaneously in the atmosphere then dissolved in liquid water. Upon digesting these molecules, early bacteria produced methane and carbon dioxide as waste products.
20 posted on 08/18/2016 7:04:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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