Skip to comments.How Methodists Invented Your Kid's Grape Juice Sugar High
Posted on 09/24/2016 9:04:55 AM PDT by NRx
Its weird to think about, but a lot of the things we take for granted are almost shockingly recent inventions. The can opener didnt exist until 1870nearly a full century after canned food was first produced (people ate so much canned food that year, you guys). Doors have been around forever, but doorknobs werent invented until 1878 (and people were finally able to leave their houses). And grape juice?
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Grape juice wasnt a thing until 1869.
That may surprise you. There have always been grapes, and theyve always had juice, right? Well, yeah...no...sorta. See, the thing about grapes is that their juice is loaded with sugar, and their skins naturally cultivate yeast, so the moment you squash a grape, the yeast gets in the sugary juice and starts turning it into alcohol. The label on that thousand-dollar bottle of cabernet youve got in your cellar might tell you otherwise, but, like most of Francis Ford Coppolas career, winemaking is something a toddler could do by accident.
Prior to the post-Civil War era, if you wanted your grapes to last past next Tuesday, you only had two options: Dry them out and make raisins, or squash them to make wineand since raisins are only useful for ruining perfectly good cookies, there was really only one option. This was okay, though, becauseaccording to the psalmist, at leastwine is a gift from God:
He makes grass grow for the cattle,
and plants for people to cultivate
bringing forth food from the earth:
wine that gladdens human hearts,
oil to make their faces shine,
and bread that sustains their hearts. (Ps. 104:14-15)
Christians generally recognized this as truethat is, until Methodists decided it wasnt true sometime in the early 19th century.
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Interesting and entertaining. Thanks for posting.
I did a sermon on this a couple of years back...very fascinating. The premise is why do we use wine instead of grape juice in a Passover ceremony...it’s because that’s what Christ HAD to have used himself...
Methodists on a grape jihad?
This also answered my question of why we make wine from grapes but not so much other fruits.
I have heard the Baptist evangelist Jack Van Impe preach more than once that “oinos” in the NT always refers to unfermented grape products, even jam. An interesting piece of revisionism.
Difficult for me, a recovering alcoholic. When I visit a church, I always have to ask if they are going to use grape juice or wine.
Of course with the massive revisionism going on in Methodism today it is more likely a progressive pastor would use some form of liquid pot. She might even lace it with blood for authenticity sake. http://www.salvationanointed.com/about-the-church/the-holy-herb-cannabis-sacrament-of-the-religion-of-jesus-church/
Vam Impe as wrong. Kids frequently drank alcoholc products to keep them from getting water borne diseases. Which were very close to 100% lethal.
In Israel it was wine, in America they drank apple cider. Basically apple beer.
Recently apple beer or cider has had a rebirth in the US. Pick up a 4 or 6 pack and you will find out. Very tart and one of the best drinks out there. Way better than beer.
There was an article posted on FR a few weeks back in which the author advocated marijuana use “because Jesus created it.” That was from a “progressive Christian” site, so I would be surprised that there are those who advocate it use in “worship.”
Danged Methodists STILL only give you unfermented grape juice at Communion.
At that, they are still a step ahead of the Mormons, who only give you water with leavened bread for their version of the Holy Sacrament of the Lord’s Supper.
I knew the Welch story a long time ago, so I knew Van Impe was being creative when I heard him say it. I am a fan of Woodpecker and Woodchuck ciders. I have wanted to try some of the others.
What? God didn't create marijuana? Genesis 1:29?
I don't advocate the consumption of Oleader. But neither do I advocate spending tens of billions of dollars to pursue and prosecute those who do choose to consume Oleader, and then to throw them into prison at an additional cost of tens of billions of dollars.
Oral tradition was that unfermented Concord grape juice was a very small, niche market until Prohibition came along. Then there were thousands of small vineyards whose produce had almost all gone into the production of wine, and the market disappeared.
The growers formed a Cooperative, which began promoting Concord grape juice as a healthy drink, to create a market for their grapes. That is why we identify the flavor of Concord grapes as “grape” but virtually never see those purple grapes in the market.
I was addressing the stupid idea that if God made it that we should consume it.
Perhaps my point was a bit too subtle for you.
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