Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jesuits at Australian prep schools urge students, parents to support ‘gay marriage’ [Cath Cauc]
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/catholic-college-leaders-support-gay-marriage-in-australia ^ | August 30, 2017 | Lisa Bourne

Posted on 08/30/2017 5:19:42 PM PDT by ebb tide

Leaders from two prominent Jesuit schools in Australia have tacitly endorsed gay “marriage” before the country’s vote on the issue in communications to parents, staff and students.

Leadership for St. Ignatius College in Sydney and Xavier College in Melbourne used Pope Francis' emphasis on love as the “primary Gospel value” and the primacy of individual conscience to give a positive portrayal of homosexual relationships. Their statements also directly defied Catholic teaching and recent statements by Australian prelates about upholding Catholic identity in Church institutions.

The Jesuit schools are alma maters for generations of Australian politicians, The Sydney Morning Herald reported.

St. Ignatius, which is independent of the local Catholic school system, has former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce among its alumni. Opposition Leader Bill Shorten went to Xavier College. The late Dr. John Billings, renowned pioneer of natural fertility regulation, attended Xavier as well.

St. Ignatius rector Father Ross Jones asserted that Catholic couples could engage in sexual relationships "in good conscience" for reasons other than procreation under the "order of reason" school of natural law rather than a physicalist view.

"Presumably, same sex-couples who make such a commitment to each other in good conscience do so by reflecting on experience and on what it is to be human, using their God-given reason," wrote Father Jones.

The Catholic Church teaches that sexual relations are reserved for married couples – consisting of one man and one woman – in the context of sacramental marriage.

Pope Francis wrote in his controversial apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia that a person’s “individual conscience needs to be incorporated into the Church’s praxis in certain situations which do not objectively embody our understanding of marriage.”

Father Jones also ran through the rights already allowed for Australia’s same-sex couples and said many want to marry "for the same reasons as their opposite-sex counterparts."

Father Chris Middleton, rector at Xavier College, pointed to the fact same-sex “marriage” is popular among young people and also perceived inequality.

“The Church needs to reflect on why there such strong support for same-sex marriage among the young,” he said, and cited Irish Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, who has spoken positively of same-sex unions, to say the Church needed "a reality check."

"In my experience, there is almost total unanimity amongst the young in favour of same-sex marriage,” Father Middleton wrote,” and arguments against it have almost no impact on them."

"They are driven by a strong emotional commitment to equality, and this is surely something to respect and admire,” he continued. “They are idealistic in the value they ascribe to love, the primary gospel value."

Father Middleton also tried to detach sacramental marriage from Australia’s upcoming postal vote on gay “marriage.” The Church should have a voice in the secular sphere, he said, but "The vote relates to marriage as a civil right and is not in essence about the Catholic sacramental understanding of marriage."

Australia is conducting a voluntary postal survey on same-sex “marriage” beginning in September. If the postal ballots signal a “Yes” majority, the government will introduce a bill legalizing same-sex “marriage.” If Australians return a majority of “No” votes, a challenge is expected from gay “marriage” activists.

Father Middleton went on to infer the Catholic Church was opening itself up to accusations of hypocrisy subsequent to findings of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.

"To be brutally honest,” he wrote, “the church speaking out in controversial areas around sexuality risks being mired in vitriolic attacks on its credibility in the aftermath of the royal commission.”

The Xavier College priest said Catholics are questioning whether banning gay “marriage” equates to discrimination, stating, "For many Catholics engaged in the debate the critical question is whether the denial of the right to civil marriage is an 'unjust discrimination'?"

St. Ignatius Principal Paul Hine spurned Melbourne Archbishop Denis Hart’s recent notice that Catholic Church and school employees are expected to uphold Church teaching.

"I do not know if Riverview (Sydney) has any LBGTQI teachers or parents in the college and if they have intentions of marriage,” he wrote in St. Ignatius' Viewpoint newsletter. “I won't be asking with a view to removing them from the school."

"Those of same-sex orientation who are part of our community are welcomed and valued as part of the greater mission of the church,” Hine continued, “and that is to bring God's love to the world and those in need of it."

Hine said it was a difficult time for same-sex-attracted people, who faced an "onslaught" from not only the media but also "religious institutions."

A recent poll commissioned by same-sex “marriage” advocates had 66 percent of Catholics saying they were leaning toward a "yes" vote in the forthcoming postal survey, representing the same percentage as the general population.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; francischurch; homos; homosexualmarriage; jesuits; marriage
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last
Title edited for space. Full title:

Catholic priests at Australian prep schools urge students, parents to support ‘gay marriage’

And once again, expect the Jesuit pope to remain silent as queer marriage comes up for a national vote in yet another country.

1 posted on 08/30/2017 5:19:43 PM PDT by ebb tide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

Q. Which group is more anti Catholic, Muslims or Jesuits?
A. No contest. Jesuits.


2 posted on 08/30/2017 5:21:17 PM PDT by Da Coyote
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Da Coyote

I estimate that 1/3 of Jesuits I met in the 1990s were homosexual.


3 posted on 08/30/2017 5:23:12 PM PDT by PGR88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

By the fruits you shall know them...


4 posted on 08/30/2017 5:27:04 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #5 Removed by Moderator

To: ebb tide

isn’t Frankie the pope a Jesuit ???


6 posted on 08/30/2017 5:31:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

The Jesuits have never been about teaching Scripture, but acquiring power on behalf the church.


7 posted on 08/30/2017 5:45:31 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

I remember when I thought Jesuits were Catholic.


8 posted on 08/30/2017 5:46:24 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tennessee Nana

Yes.


9 posted on 08/30/2017 5:46:57 PM PDT by madison10 (Pray for President Trump and Houston, Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

I am still impressed by my peers, men in their mid 60’s who tell me they were educated by the Jesuits.


10 posted on 08/30/2017 5:58:26 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Jonty30

Against the church, oddly enough.


11 posted on 08/30/2017 5:59:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Ya could look it up" -- FReeper jjotto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

The Catholic Church has always chosen the world over doctrine, unfortunately. There are still many good Catholic Christians, however.


12 posted on 08/30/2017 6:00:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Maine Mariner

Same here. I remember when they valued learning, logic, and reason. That too was a long time ago.


13 posted on 08/30/2017 6:12:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Jonty30

The problem with the Catholic Church is not bad doctrine, but bad discipline: people teaching and living in a manner contrary to Catholic faith and morals.

The world would have a whole lot less problems if Catholics were really Catholic.

Tagline!!


14 posted on 08/30/2017 6:15:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. Yogi Berra)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

Yes, logic, learning, and reason. My colleague is CPA with an MBA. I could tell almost immediately that he had a Jesuit
education-his writing and speaking skills and how he developed and advocated proposals.


15 posted on 08/30/2017 6:19:50 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

I always knew the Jesuits of the Twentieth and Twenty-First Centuries were queer as three-dollar bills. This Jesuit Dope, or is that Pope, have confirmed my belief.


16 posted on 08/30/2017 6:30:31 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

Pragmatism doesn’t work.


17 posted on 08/30/2017 6:36:11 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

There are a number of ways we will know quickly whether the next Pope is a Catholic. One is, does he suppress the Jesuits?


18 posted on 08/30/2017 6:38:44 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

Great statement of the current state of affairs.


19 posted on 08/30/2017 6:43:09 PM PDT by nobamanomore
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Tennessee Nana

Frankie’s a Jesuit; there’s some doubt about whether he is or is not actually Pope.


20 posted on 08/30/2017 7:11:27 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson