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Bergoglio Vatican celebrates Protestant Revolt with a stamp
Rorate Caeli ^ | October 31, 2017 | New Catholic

Posted on 10/31/2017 10:02:53 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

If any Pope spoke ex cathedra and took a contrary position what would happen?


81 posted on 10/31/2017 6:58:24 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: LukeL

How many times has a pope spoken ex cathedra on matters of faith and morals?


82 posted on 10/31/2017 7:00:19 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Twice I believe, the immaculate conception and the assumption of Mary. Still haven't answered that question.
83 posted on 10/31/2017 7:09:40 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: ebb tide

The bosom of Abraham is just a name for the place the righteous dead awaited judgement. The place was Sheol and seems to have a place of torment and had a place of comfort (where the righteous were) The lake of fire does or 2nd death does as of yet not exist.


84 posted on 10/31/2017 7:15:01 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: ebb tide

About how much longer should we expect to see your near daily raving snits about Martin Luther posted to the RF? Do you imagine you get an indulgence for doing so?


85 posted on 10/31/2017 7:31:24 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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The anniversray of his revolt ends tonight.

No need to worry about any Luther posts from me tomorrow. I have better things to do, like celebrating All Saints’ Day.


86 posted on 10/31/2017 7:45:45 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Upshot: Luther was a sinner.
Then why did he dispense with the Holy Sacrament of Confession with absolution?


He didn’t. http://lsb.cph.org/samples/LSB_Sampler.pdf

See p. 86 of the sample of the Lutheran Service Book (Hymnal p. 292).

See also the beginning of any service, e.g., pp. 27 and 44 of that sampler (Hymnal pp. 151 and 184)


87 posted on 10/31/2017 9:05:40 PM PDT by CraigEsq
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To: ebb tide

“Sure they would if those church authorities were heretics.”

Except “heretics” are whoever the church authorities declare to be heretics. Using your own individual judgement on such matters would itself be heresy.


88 posted on 11/01/2017 7:35:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Arthur McGowan; piusv; Campion; BlessedBeGod
Here's a little more info on Bergolio's stamp celebrating Luther's Revolt:

Tuesday, October 31, 2017

Vatican honors Martin Luther with stamp



issues Joint Statement with Lutherans




Wow! The Vatican honors two heretical men, Martin Luther and Philipp Melanchton, on the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther’s nailing 95 theses to the door of All Saints’ Church in Wittenberg, Germany (October 31st, 1517). The stamp (see above) depicts Luther and Melanchton at the foot of the Cross at Our Lord’s Crucifixion as if they were faithful sons of Our Lord and of the Church He instituted! How can this be the same Church that condemned Luther’s errors in 1520 and excommunicated him in 1521?

Zenit writes of the new issue,
“The postage stamp issued by the Philatelic Office for the occasion depicts in the foreground Jesus crucified and in the background a golden and timeless view of the city of Wittenberg. With a penitential disposition, kneeling respectively on the left and right of the cross, Martin Luther holds the Bible, source and destination of his doctrine, while Philipp Melanchthon, theologian and friend of Martin Luther, one of the main protagonists of the reform, holds in hand the Augsburg Confession (Confessio Augustana), the first official public presentation of the principles of Protestantism written by him.”

Symbolically, this stamp is stating that Martin Luther’s condemned 95 theses are correct as well as the Augsburg Confession  — that Our Lord is in agreement with the two heresiarchs, Luther and Melanchton.  To have the nerve to replace the Blessed Mother and St. John at the foot of the Cross with the two heresiarchs takes chutzpah!  These are people who denied the presence of Our Lord’s Body and Blood for Melanchthon said, “Christ instituted the Eucharist as a memorial of His Passion. To adore It is therefore idolatry” and Luther, “It is, therefore, clearly erroneous and impious to offer or apply the merits of the Mass for sins, or the reparation thereof, or for the deceased. Mass is offered by God to man, and not by man to God.”  It also a sign that these Protestants and the Revolt they led away from the Church is part of the sacrifice of the Cross!  And to put Wittenberg, the infamous place where Luther’s movement started, in the background is another mocking jest that only the wicked would take delight in!

Simultaneously with the issue of the stamp many Novus Ordo churches had joint services with Lutherans marking the anniversary.  Below is video of one of these services in the Cathedral of St. Michael and St. Gudula in Brussels, Belgium which was interrupted by a few young Catholics who were saying a Rosary to Our Lady because of the atrocious joint celebration taking place.  Notice the police come and cart them away one by one.  Who called the police?  One of the Cathedral’s prelates!  When Francis told the youth to “make a mess” and cause “trouble” in “their dioceses” he didn’t mean for one to practice the Catholic Faith.






The Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity also issued a Joint Statement with the Lutheran World Federation for the Conclusion of the Year of the Common Commemoration of the Reformation, 31st October 2017.  It begins by stating,
“we are very thankful for the spiritual and theological gifts received through the Reformation, a commemoration that we have shared with and with our ecumenical partners globally.”

And as if that isn’t bad enough states a little later that Lutheran-Novus Ordo commemoration is,
“[a] pilgrimage, sustained by our common prayer, worship and ecumenical dialogue,”

This document concludes with these gems,
“Again, it has become clear that what we have in common is far more than that which still divides us.”
[and]
“Looking forward, we commit ourselves to continue our journey together, guided by God's Spirit, towards the greater unity according to the will of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

Does this sound Catholic to your ears or Protestant?

Vatican honors Martin Luther with stamp & issues Joint Statement with Lutherans


89 posted on 11/01/2017 11:13:53 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Boogieman
Except “heretics” are whoever the church authorities declare to be heretics. Using your own individual judgement on such matters would itself be heresy.

It's become obvious to me that you don't know what you're talking about when it regards the Catholic Church.

90 posted on 11/01/2017 11:49:15 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

There can no longer be any doubt: Bergoglio is a Lutheran. His goal is a formal, official, juridical, sacramental unification of the Lutheran churches (actually, only the ones with female, lesbian bishops) and the Church of Rome.

At some point, some Catholic bishops are going to announce that Bergoglio is no longer a Catholic, and they are therefore no longer in union with him.

But they will be few.

The majority of “Catholic” bishops will remain “in union with the Catholic Church”—i.e., in union with the gang that controls the Vatican City State.


91 posted on 11/01/2017 1:34:31 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/hj3e8cKZWiY)
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