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1 posted on 10/31/2017 11:37:29 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Rituals and liturgy was done away with along with the priesthood on the cross........................


2 posted on 10/31/2017 11:51:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Gamecock

500 years ago, western history was changed.


3 posted on 10/31/2017 11:52:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Gamecock

The path of Eternal Salvation was opened up to hundreds of millions because of the Reformation.

IMHO, this produced the biggest harvest of souls for Christ during the Church Age.

Also, IMHO the last week of Daniel’s 70 weeks will probably eclipse that number saved. They are mentioned in Revelation 7. These folks are alive today.


4 posted on 10/31/2017 11:53:09 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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To: Gamecock

Thanks for posting. People have been posting about this on FB. You know, I am 73 years old and have been to many kinds of churches. Over these years, I never heard Luther mentioned once. I never heard a thing about Catholics either. I started carrying my Bible with me as soon as I learned to read. One thing these churches had in common was that they taught directly from the Bible. God bless.


5 posted on 10/31/2017 11:53:43 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb : 13)
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To: Gamecock

It was the beginning of the needed cleaning up and reform of the Christian faith.


6 posted on 10/31/2017 11:59:13 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Gamecock

bump


7 posted on 10/31/2017 12:15:43 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Gamecock

Well “payments made to the Church to either purchase time off of one’s own sentence, or another’s sentence” the author obviously doesn’t know what an indulgence is. The issue was paying for an indulgence! An indulgence isn’t a payment to the Church.


8 posted on 10/31/2017 12:48:39 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Gamecock

Good article thanks!


10 posted on 10/31/2017 1:13:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Gamecock

I believe that the Reformation might have been in real danger of becoming marginalized all of the way to the devastating 30 Years War that wracked the Germanies between 1618 and 1648. The resurgent Roman Catholic Church (RCC) following the Counter-Reformation, led by the Hapsburg dual monarchies of Austria and Spain, fought to suppress Protestantism in the northern tier of Europe from the Lowlands (Netherland) through the Baltics.

After significant victories from White Mountain to Bohemia and with the Protestant Huguenots under threat in France and England’s Charles I openly RCC inclining, the only strong resistance was in the Dutch/Netherlands and the north where Lutheran Denmark-Norway and Sweden-Finland were rich, prosperous and militarily powerful. After the Austrian Hapsburgs rebuffed Danish forces and forced them back into Denmark, it took the other Scandinavian power, Sweden, under its very able king, Gustavus Adolphus Vasa, to take the battle into RCC conquered and native territory.

Strange to us today but an example of how realpolitik was in those days, Sweden was financially supported by, not only the Dutch but also the French under their de facto ruler, Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis, Duke of Richelieu and Fronsac, a real RCC Cardinal (Cardinal Richelieu) [Yes, the one in the Three Musketeers by Dumas]! France was happy to ignore supporting the same Protestants (Dutch, Danes & Swedes) that they were suppressing internally in order not to be surrounded by the unfriendly Hapsburgs.

Perhaps the big event that ensured the Protestant north and west of Europe was the Battle of Breitenfeld fought by Gustavus of Sweden & allies and the forces of the (German) Catholic League led by the undefeated victor of White Mountain, Johann Tserclaes, Count of Tilly. Although the forces were only slightly heavier on the RCC side, the Protestant side may have had the better in terms of greater mobility and formations. Still the early betting was probably in favor of Count Tilly who had been a professional soldier since his 20s and undefeated in battle as a commander. Early in the battle at Breitenfeld, the odds looked good for him when a majority of the Protestant Saxon troops fled the field, leaving the Swedish command with about 2/3rds of their starting forces.

However, the Swedes, maneuvered better and were able to route the cavalry of the RCC forces and then used the same mobility to face the RCC pike forces with more muskets and cannon that ended up ruling the battlefield with a destruction of near 80% of Tilly’s forces. This major battle probably broke the chance that the RCC could force the suppression of Protestantism on the European Continent. Both Tilly and Gustavus Adolphus would die in later battles but the Protestant forces would force the RCC powers to a standstill by 1648 over a more-than-decimated area called the Germanies. Some 200 years after this battle, a battlefield monument would be placed with this inscription; “Glaubensfreiheit für die Welt, rettete bei Breitenfeld – Gustav Adolf, Christ und Held. Am 7. September 1631.” [”Freedom of Belief for the World, saved at Breitenfeld, Gustavus Adolphus, Christian and Hero. 7 September 1631.”]

In all fairness, a pertinent point of fact and history needs to be kept clear. Austria fought not one but two battles of extinction against invading Ottoman Turks in 1529 and then in 1683. Both of them were very close to losses and in the latter case the Turks had Protestant allies. Not saying that this excuses the very great atrocities from both the Protestant and RCC sides, but there is context in that Austria always felt under threat from two sides!


11 posted on 10/31/2017 1:15:39 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Gamecock

IMHO, one of the first and most profound uses of Freedom of the Press in the history of mankind.


13 posted on 10/31/2017 1:36:33 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Gamecock
500 Years Ago Today, Western Civilization Was Changed FOREVER

Bookmarking for later.

15 posted on 10/31/2017 2:06:14 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Gamecock
Figured I'd offer the following for those freepers who are students of theology.

A few years ago I was doing some proofreading with the Distributed Proofreading folks for Project Gutenberg. One of the books I proofed was "True Christianity" by Johann Arndt. The book was eventually published at the previous link. For many months I would read a chapter a day and meditate on them a bit. I found it to be spiritually very worthwhile. The book was originally published in Jena in 1605 (in German, of course). In the 17th and 18 centuries, if you were German, and had 2 books in your home, it was likely that one was the Bible, and the other was True Christianity. The Project Gutenberg work is a copy of a translation into English By Rev. A. W. Boehm, and Published in London, A.D. 1712

You don't particularly have to be Lutheran to enjoy his apologetics. I'm not, though I've spent some time in Lutheran churches, among others over my lifetime. The translation is a bit verbose for modern readers. I shudder to think what a modern translator would do to his prose.


Those interested in more contemporary apologetics might be interested in the collection that Project Gutenberg Canada has published of C.S. Lewis.(search the page at the previous link for 'Lewis', and you'll find several excellent works of his. Fortunately, Canada's copyright law is somewhat more sane than ours here in the U.S.

16 posted on 10/31/2017 2:07:01 PM PDT by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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To: Gamecock

Providential God rescued His church after the cult of Rome hijacked it.


18 posted on 10/31/2017 3:04:37 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Gamecock

With Rome, it was all about retaining power over people.


19 posted on 10/31/2017 3:08:27 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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500 Years Ago Today, Western Civilization Was Changed FOREVER

Yes! Now we have state sanctioned abortion, artificail birth control, homo marriages, etc. Adultery is now a norm; but "faith alone" is all one needs.

20 posted on 10/31/2017 3:18:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Gamecock
The Reformation continues, from 1517 to the present day, and will continue for the rest of Church history, in Western Civilization, and throughout the entire world.

Amen! Soli Deo Gloria!!!


41 posted on 10/31/2017 7:03:36 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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