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Evangelical Christians 'Uncritical' in Support for Trump, UK [Anglican] Bishop Says
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 12/28/17 | Harriet Sherwood

Posted on 12/28/2017 6:09:45 PM PST by marshmallow

Paul Bayes, bishop of Liverpool, accuses some religious leaders of ‘colluding with a system that marginalises the poor’

A senior Church of England bishop has lambasted conservative evangelical Christians in the US for their “uncritical support” of Donald Trump, urging them to reflect on how their endorsement of the president relates to their faith.

Paul Bayes, the bishop of Liverpool, said “self-styled evangelicals” risked bringing the word evangelical into disrepute, and added there was no justification for Christians contradicting God’s teaching to protect the poor and the weak.

Bayes told the Guardian: “Some of the things that have been said by religious leaders seem to collude with a system that marginalises the poor, a system which builds walls instead of bridges, a system which says people on the margins of society should be excluded, a system which says we’re not welcoming people any more into our country.

“Whenever people say those kinds of things, they need to be able to justify that they’re saying those things as Christians, and I do not believe it’s justifiable.”

He said he regretted that “people who call themselves evangelical in the US seem to be uncritically accepting” positions taken by Trump and his allies.

“Some quite significant so-called evangelical leaders are uncritically supporting people in ways that imply they are colluding or playing down the seriousness of things which in other parts of their lives [they] would see as really important,” Bayes added.

He stressed that not all evangelicals were Trump supporters, saying there were “many, many Christians who are trying to proclaim the gospel as we’ve received it, even if that means political leaders have to be challenged”.

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1 posted on 12/28/2017 6:09:45 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Sorry but we don’t give much credence to Third World opinions.


2 posted on 12/28/2017 6:12:12 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Yes, being pro abortion like all left wing social democrats in Europe and in the USA, sooooo biblical...


3 posted on 12/28/2017 6:13:18 PM PST by Professional
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To: marshmallow

Liberals marginalize the poor. Their political power depends on keeping them dependent, like minorities.


4 posted on 12/28/2017 6:13:19 PM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: marshmallow

Sound bite theology that’s an excuse for class wars isn’t how Jesus wants the rich to help the poor.

The modern business enterprise didn’t exist in Jesus’ Israel. Now that it does exist, we still have class warfare folks making it hard for it to hire the poor.


5 posted on 12/28/2017 6:14:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: marshmallow

>>added there was no justification for Christians contradicting God’s teaching to protect the poor and the weak.

We have poor and weak in America already. We don’t need to import new ones.


6 posted on 12/28/2017 6:17:15 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: marshmallow

“Some of the things that have been said by religious leaders seem to collude with a system that marginalises the poor, a system which builds walls instead of bridges, a system which says people on the margins of society should be excluded, a system which says we’re not welcoming people any more into our country.


What do these Progressive code phrases actually mean?

Marginalizes the poor? - Maintains property rights.

Builds walls instead of bridges? - Maintains the rule of law and protects its citizens.

Not welcoming more people into our country is completely acceptable. A country gets to decide who enters and who does not, or it does not survive.

Part of Christian doctrine is self defense and the responsibility of the government to protect its people.


7 posted on 12/28/2017 6:23:05 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

What you said!


8 posted on 12/28/2017 6:28:21 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: marktwain

Why is it that every time I hear the one-worlders pass judgement on conservative Christians I think of the Tower of Babel? God was NOT happy with the one world system. He understands that we do better as humans in small groups who speak our own language and build our own communities....with walls if necessary.


9 posted on 12/28/2017 6:54:46 PM PST by WVNan
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To: marshmallow

This heretic “bishop” needs a crusader boot shoved up his dhimmi, dummy ass.

Dilly! Dilly!


10 posted on 12/28/2017 6:55:27 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: marshmallow
A ranking idiot from an idiotic state sponsored religion says what?


11 posted on 12/28/2017 7:01:20 PM PST by Bullish (Whatever it takes to MAGA)
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To: marshmallow

http://virtueonline.org/three-acna-bishops-sign-open-letter-opposing-transgender-ideology


12 posted on 12/28/2017 7:19:19 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: marshmallow

Its best for someone who proclaims or claims to follow Jesus to act like Jesus.

I’m a big hypocrite and sinner, I even call myself “Fundamentalists Anonymous”.

I am not a part of the Evangelical subculture anymore, but I don’t have any bitterness or anger towards people over anything.

The liberal and conservative factions that choose to throw bombs at each other like this liberal is had names in the Good Book.

The liberal ones were called Sadducces and the conservative ones like I used to be were called Pharisees.

Its time to stop throwing bombs and “get ones own side of the street cleaned up” IMHO.


13 posted on 12/28/2017 7:26:53 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: marshmallow

UK Anglican Bishops ‘Uncritical’ in Support for Homosexuality


14 posted on 12/28/2017 7:37:39 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: marshmallow
Paul Bayes, the bishop of Liverpool, said “self-styled evangelicals” risked bringing the word evangelical into disrepute, and added there was no justification for Christians contradicting God’s teaching to protect the poor and the weak.

The guy is full of ...... um, this is the RF so I can't say.

Nevertheless, he is grossly misrepresenting the Evangelical position.

Christian are not contradicting God's teaching to protect the poor and weak by NOT wanting their responsibility to do so foisted off on the government.

Taking care of them is the job of the CHURCH, not the government.

Besides, when we do try to protect the weak, we are thrown in jail by the pro-abortion crowd.

15 posted on 12/28/2017 8:14:07 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: marshmallow
urging them to reflect on how their endorsement of the president relates to their faith

Reflecting......reflecting some more.......Done reflecting. Yep, I support Donald Trump alright, and I'm a Christian. So go pound sand, bishop.

16 posted on 12/28/2017 9:18:37 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: marshmallow

I’m so sick of these liberal “Christians.” They believe that all they have to do is talk about their concern for “the poor” in order to dress their godless communism in religious clothing.


17 posted on 12/28/2017 9:56:33 PM PST by WKTimpco
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To: marshmallow

The bishop is wrong in his perspective.

But American evangelicals deserve criticism for their unhindered embrace of Donald Trump. The man is profane, and an adulterer, and lacks self control. For these, the American believer ought to be circumspect.

His policies? Great, so far. But policies do not make a man righteous.


18 posted on 12/28/2017 9:59:42 PM PST by lurk
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To: WKTimpco

Agreed. They think the Bible is rubbish, except for all the parts about helping the poor. Of course, the religion least known for charity, Islam, is the one religion Leftists go out of their way to defend.


19 posted on 12/28/2017 10:19:06 PM PST by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: marshmallow

When the higher ups in a religion are bombastic buffoons who think they are better than the laity, and who constantly forgo talking up Christ so they can go all political, is it still a valid religion?


20 posted on 12/29/2017 5:26:56 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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