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Is Christianity Just Wishful Thinking?
Depths of Pentecost ^ | May 5, 2018 | Philip Cottraux

Posted on 05/06/2018 1:49:30 PM PDT by pcottraux

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To: pcottraux

Thinking Christianity is wishful thinking...is wishful thinking.


21 posted on 05/06/2018 4:13:16 PM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: pcottraux

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As Jeremiah told us, “christianity” is the collection of “inherited lies wherein there is no profit.”

The big one is “Saved by Grace.”

The word says we are saved by our faith, and it is by the grace of Yehova that we are led to that faith.
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22 posted on 05/06/2018 4:20:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Zeneta

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>> “ and come to Him by Faith.” <<

Precisely!

Without that faith, there can be no application for grace. It cannot be of effect to those who reject the faith delivered on the first shavuot, at Mt. Sinai.

That is what Paul explained in Hebrews ch 3 and 4.
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23 posted on 05/06/2018 4:25:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Nifster

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Allowing anything but the work of the Holy Spirit to ever effect ones faith is a sad state for any human.

A recipe for failure.


24 posted on 05/06/2018 4:29:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pcottraux
After studying it closely, the real problem I have with Freud’s criticism is that he assumed that Christianity is about the pursuit of comfort and pleasure. It’s why he thought we view God as a warm, comforting presence that loves and accepts us for who we are. This, of course, overlooks the full, sometimes terrifying nature of the Almighty, that He is also capable of horrifying judgment and that Christians are, in some ways, to fear the Lord.

The wishful thinking could be the desire to see wrongdoers punished. The other side of a father figure. It's comforting to believe evil will always be punished and crime never pays.

25 posted on 05/06/2018 4:31:54 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: sauropod

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26 posted on 05/06/2018 4:31:58 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Zeneta

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>> “I was raised by Christian parents but the Bible was never taught or even discussed.” <<

Ditto, at least what the Bible really said in very plain language.
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27 posted on 05/06/2018 4:32:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pcottraux

Nope, thanks for posting!


28 posted on 05/06/2018 4:34:09 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: mjp

Anyone who has ever had a personal relationship with Jesus can tell you without a shadow of doubt that He is. Having experienced Him, nothing else in my sphere of experience has ever equaled it. I always smile a little at people who try to explain Him away.


29 posted on 05/06/2018 4:42:11 PM PDT by freepertoo
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As I read this writer's summary of Freud's thoughts on religion, I find it far more applicable to collectivist beliefs like Communism and Socialism.

Christianity is constantly subjected to such critical analyses as those by Freud, but never, or very rarely, do you see Leftism receive the same treatment; though in all its forms it is replete with features of the same kind. So, why not?

30 posted on 05/06/2018 4:49:02 PM PDT by Robwin (very)
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There’s a place in the darkness I use to cling to.
That presses harsh hope against time.
In the absence of martyrs there’s a presence of thieves.
who only want to rob you blind.

They steal away any sense of peace tho I’m a king.
I’m a king on my knees.
And I know they are wrong when they say I am strong. As the darkness covers me.

So I turn on the light and reveal all the glory
I am not afraid.

To bear all my weakness, knowing in meekness, I have a kingdom to gain.

Where there is peace and Love in the Light in the Light, I am not afraid.
To let your light shine bright in my life In my life.

There are ghosts from my past who have owned more of my soul
Than I thought I had given away.
They linger in closets and under my bed.
And in pictures less proudly dis-played.

A great fool in my Life I have been. Have squandered til pallid and thin.

Hung my head in shame and refused to take blame.

From darkness I know I’ve let win.

So turn on the light and reveal all the glory
I am not afraid

To bear all my weakness, knowing in meekness
I have a kingdom to gain

Where there is peace and love in the light
In the light ,

I am not afraid
To let your light shine bright in my life, in my life

Can you hear me?
Can you hear me? (5x)

I’ve never been much for the bearing of soul
In the presence of any man
I’d rather keep to myself all safe and secure
In the arms of a sinner I am.

Jennifer Knapp | Martyrs & Thieves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyLh2oqgsg8


31 posted on 05/06/2018 5:06:17 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: pcottraux

Communism is wishful thinking.

The universe without an intelligent first cause is wishful thinking.

A democrat that doesnt want to use government to confiscate more of your stuff, is wishful thinking.


32 posted on 05/06/2018 5:12:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hugin
Of course they are “made up”. All theories are made up by someone. Then you test them to see if they are right. That’s how science works.

But in Freud's case, the claim is that a lot of his theories were never tested or proclaimed factual without any real, or at the very questionable, backing. Also known as "pseudo-science."

33 posted on 05/06/2018 5:17:45 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: chesley

Done.


34 posted on 05/06/2018 5:18:06 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: pcottraux

True. The “testing” is ongoing. I just thought it was an interesting way to put it.


35 posted on 05/06/2018 5:35:19 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: pcottraux

It is there as sure as I am here. I am 100% sure.


36 posted on 05/06/2018 5:36:31 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: freepertoo

” I always smile a little at people who try to explain Him away.”

It’s kinda like them telling you your mom and dad dont exist - just because THEY never met your parents...
It’s a very self-centered view.


37 posted on 05/06/2018 5:55:06 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: reasonisfaith

Late in life — he was in his 80s, in fact — Sigmund Freud got religion. No, Freud didn’t begin showing up at temple every Saturday, wrapping himself in a prayer shawl and reading from the Torah. To the end of his life, he maintained his stance as an uncompromising atheist, the stance he is best known for down to the present. In “The Future of an Illusion,” he described belief in God as a collective neurosis: he called it “longing for a father.” But in his last completed book, “Moses and Monotheism,” something new emerges. There Freud, without abandoning his atheism, begins to see the Jewish faith that he was born into as a source of cultural progress in the past and of personal inspiration in the present. Close to his own death, Freud starts to recognize the poetry and promise in religion.


38 posted on 05/06/2018 6:40:14 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: pcottraux

I did a two hour lecture in Raleigh, NC last Thursday evening for about 100 people. I purposely invited all the atheists, agnostics and skeptics. The emails I received afterward were very complimentary.

I have many emails from people stating that they were atheists until they attended my lecture. The pathway to knowing and experiencing God is both scientific and logical, without discounting Christianity.


39 posted on 05/06/2018 6:45:31 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Robwin

Leftism pretty much owns main line education and the MSM so Christianity has an uphill battle in the “world”....but what else is new. :)


40 posted on 05/06/2018 6:57:29 PM PDT by Shark24
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