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1 posted on 06/08/2018 1:51:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Watch for phony “confessions” to be made about child abuse, just to see if the priests report them.

Then the priests can be prosecuted.

That’s the way the state begins its persecutions...

Hopefully the churches will not be short of those willing to accept the consequences of their faith — ie, martyrdom.


2 posted on 06/08/2018 1:57:48 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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I foresee sting operations to ensnare Catholic priests.

Meanwhile, the Oz equivalent of Planned Parenthood will continue to protect child rapists by performing abortions on underage girls without a word to the authorities.


3 posted on 06/08/2018 2:01:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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The f*ckfaces on the left want nothing more than to destroy the Church. They think they can force the priests to choose between their faith and going to jail. ZERO of them will break the seal.


10 posted on 06/08/2018 2:32:33 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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Not going to happen.


11 posted on 06/08/2018 2:39:41 PM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: ebb tide
I wonder what would happen if people in Australia would start saying “and I violated the 6th Commandment X number of times” and if the priest responds “could you be more specific?” the person says “for your protection and mine I cannot do so”.
18 posted on 06/08/2018 3:14:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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Won’t happen.

The priest’s to not want to go to Hell.


20 posted on 06/08/2018 3:30:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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25 posted on 06/08/2018 3:47:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Catechism of the Catholic Church

1467 Given the delicacy and greatness of this ministry and the respect due to persons, the Church declares that every priest who hears confessions is bound under very severe penalties to keep absolute secrecy regarding the sins that his penitents have confessed to him. He can make no use of knowledge that confession gives him about penitents' lives. This secret, which admits of no exceptions, is called the "sacramental seal," because what the penitent has made known to the priest remains "sealed" by the sacrament.

30 posted on 06/08/2018 3:53:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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There’s only a few ways to enforce something like this as far as I can tell—and that is some sort of recorded false confession in a sting operation, or a claimed or recorded confession by an actual abuser who is banking that confession recording/claim in order to cut a better prosecution deal if he is under suspicion or has abused in the past. Either way the priest defends himself the same way—”I can’t confirm or deny I ever heard this confession much less what was confessed in it”.

I wonder if this would eventually be applied in civil cases. That would be a good way to bankrupt the Church.

Freegards


36 posted on 06/08/2018 4:07:29 PM PDT by Ransomed
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Owning up to abuse perpetrated and dealing with the consequences is the correct and proper way to confess sin.

Hiding it by *confessing* in private to someone who doesn’t know you and you don’t know may help some people feel like they have a clear conscience, but goes nowhere in correcting the wrong done.

I do not think that law should mandate it as that is an overreach of secular authority over the church and a slippery slope, but the perpetrator should be encouraged to confront their victim, if possible, and ask forgiveness of the one they wronged, not someone not even connected with the situation.


37 posted on 06/08/2018 4:11:36 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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The solution here is simple. You just ignore the government law and take the consequences until they realize their law has no weight.


40 posted on 06/08/2018 4:16:56 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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