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Is Pope Francis the Last Hope for Life and Family in Argentina? [Cath Cauc]
thatthebonesyouhavecrushedmaythrill.blogspot.com ^ | June 18, 2018 | Laurence England

Posted on 06/19/2018 4:26:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Laurence England at "The Bones" blog writes:

A source in Argentina has provided me with some perceptive observations on the recent intervention from Pope Francis timed - to many commentator's bewilderment - after the recent vote in Ireland and the more recent parliamentary vote in Argentina on liberalising abortion laws in these respective countries.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, 'our man in Argentina' places the sudden papal defence of the unborn in the light of politics surrounding the bill approved at the Deputies House and is about to be voted in the Argentinian Senate.

A Little History of Argentinian Politics

Firstly, a brief introduction to the pitfalls of Argentine politics are called for. Argentinian politics are very complicated and while even today's political wranglings must be seen in as expressions of an ebbing and flowing Peronist-Antiperonist dialectic.

"Peronism", he says, "can be anything, can be right and even far right or can be left to even a Marxist level. No matter what political expression it takes, Peronism is essentially a power-building machine. A sick "politics first" approach. The only Peronist principle - a principle observable in this pontificate - is 'loyalty', in the Mafia sense of the word."

"Sometimes Peronism can achieve the good, like when in 1974 the ideology led the defense against the Malthusian offensive in the UN Bucharest Population Conference. Similarly, it can turn against family and life when it is convenient."

[Snip many paragraphs on the murky, unprincipled nature of Argentinian politics.]

Despite the Latin American Catholic collapse in faith, people in Argentina are in the majority against abortion. People were not happy and marches against the (abortion) law were massive. Many of the marchers were Cambiemos (Let's Change) voters, (on the other hand) the abortionists are mostly very young females, extreme left leaning, femen-type activists who would never give their vote to Cambiemos. That can be taken as a sign that President Macri needs the law and he is under pressure for it from some people, somewhere, but not the Argentinian people themselves.

Last Wednesday, then, was the day when the deputies voted. At the beginning of the night, the life campaign was winning by seven votes, according to polls and projections. The Government put a lot of pressure on the deputies, even trading money for the provinces in exchange for votes. That went out in the very morning after and it was a shocking scandal.

People in Argentina are extremely angry about the way this vote has gone. The thing is that many people fear that going against the government would be to favour the Kirchners.

And if the Government does not get the votes for the approval, the IMF will not send the money.

That would lead the country into further and deeper economic chaos. Of course, those who campaigned against the bill consider this factor to be insignificant compared to the value of the sanctity of life at stake in the bill and would prefer to face anything except the killing of the unborn. They marched last Wednesday and are struggling hard against the law, no matter what consequences come their way.

Despite the horrific setback for life, some positive trends are emerging as a result of the deputies decision. For instance, now that International Planned Parenthood is a household name for everyone in Argentina, many people are talking about the millions they are sending to build up the pro-abortion lobby.

Similiarly, people are openly discussing the UN's positions on abortion and its influence over sovereign governments such as that of Argentina. Things that everyone considered conspiracy theories a month ago are becoming a common knowledge and talking points now.

What is Pope Francis playing at?

The morning after the vote, when campaigners were exhausted after the vigil, the night spent in front of the Congress, Pope Francis sent a tweet congratulating the people watching the World Cup. That raised in Argentina a tsunami of fury against him. People felt betrayed by everyone: the political system, the party they had voted, the silent Bishops, and now even the Pope (though Catholics in Argentina had never expected much from him), this was seen as beyond the pale.

Maybe he realized his mistake, maybe he did not, but the remarkable thing now is that he sent a very powerful message against abortion and in support of families. Less widely known is the report that he asked for the list of the abortionist voters in Parliament.

This action could have two meanings:

a) Just another remark and senseless Bergoglian rant to save his own behind in front of the shame of abortion approved in his own country,

or

b) He is about to go full swing against Macri and is using this issue as leverage against him. If he does that, he might even topple the Government mounting the Peronist deputies and the people against them.

Unfortunately, because Jorge Mario Bergoglio has always been a shrewd and obscure political operator, we don´t know for sure the reason he has done it.

In the first case, is very likely that abortion will pass even when the Senate is more conservative than the Deputies Chamber, because if the clergy does not care much, no one will.

In the second case, it would be a case of the Church struggling against the global elites and what is increasingly termed 'the New World Order', and coming out victorious. Argentina may then pay the price in a deeper economic crisis if the IMF and World Bank retire themselves from the table because the political establishment did not play ball.

"That would", in the words of my Argentinian source, "be really painful, but it is better to offer our pain than the innocent blood for money."

With Cardinal Parolin having been to the Bilderberg Meeting recently, it seems an unlikely scenario that we see now Pope Francis vs. the IMF, or Pope Francis vs George Soros or even Pope Francis vs Planned Parenthood, but the idea of Pope Francis saving lives - for frankly any reason - or doing battle against the spirit of the World is and will remain for Catholics appealing. Where he does God's will, he is surely to be commended on that.

Hopefully, his salvo in defence of the unborn is sincere If Francis is angling at defeating the abortion bill in Argentina, because of his temperament, then he will need to win. He is, after all, a political animal.

"He is a Jesuit," says our man in Argentina, "so it is impossible to know for sure. The plain truth of the matter is that we need the Church to face the Prince of the World, even with Francis at the helm."


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; bergoglio; kirchner; peron
It's something I really don't enjoy posting: an anonymously sourced speculation on international politics featuring murky Bergoglio diplomacy.

The situation is this: the lower house of the Argentinian parliament has just, very narrowly, approved the legalization of abortion. It awaits a vote in the Argentinian Senate, which is coming up very soon.

At this late stage, at which the vote could go either way, Pope Francis made a fiery, off-script speech denouncing abortion.

I posted an article yesterday about the odd timing of this truly scathing papal denunciation of both "gay marriage" and abortion, which he said is "like Nazism".

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3664250/posts

This blogger think it's possible (not certain, but possible) that Pope Francis could tip the vote against abortion, even if this would provoke the IMF and other internationalists to punish pro-life Argentina by sabotaging their economy.

Hard to know what's happening. Anybody who wants to go deeper into the mind-numbing Argentinian politics of it all, should read the whole article at the link.

Everybody pray, OK?

1 posted on 06/19/2018 4:26:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

He is a Communist, anti-Catholic Jesuit. Satan is happy.


2 posted on 06/19/2018 4:41:28 PM PDT by FatherofFive (deIslam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

And did I mention Heretic?


3 posted on 06/19/2018 4:41:57 PM PDT by FatherofFive (deIslam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Deeply disturbing, I’ll pray too.


4 posted on 06/19/2018 4:45:31 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. - (Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bkmrk.


5 posted on 06/19/2018 5:00:39 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Last night I watched an old British Top Gear episode on BBC where they were filming in Argentina and the Argentinians attacked them. (Falklands War during Thatcher’s watch) Made me realize I don’t know squat about Argentina and it perked my interest.

Thanks for posting this.

“Maybe he realized his mistake, maybe he did not.”

I’d vote not. Miss JP II. Much.


6 posted on 06/19/2018 5:24:48 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: FatherofFive

Pray, you.


7 posted on 06/19/2018 5:28:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Amazing grace, how sweet the sound / That saved a wretch like me.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Pray, you.

I pray many times a day.

Divine Savior, transform me into Yourself.
May my hands be Your hands.
May my tongue be Your tongue.
Grant that every faculty of my body
may serve only to glorify You.
Above all, transform my soul
and all its powers,
that my memory, my will and
my affections, may be the memory,
the will, and the affections of You
I pray You to destroy in me,
all that is not of You.
Grant that I may live but in You,
and by You, and for You,
and that I may truly say with St. Paul,
“I live now, not I, but Christ lives in me.”

8 posted on 06/19/2018 5:37:35 PM PDT by FatherofFive (deIslam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

That is a truly profound and wonderful prayer.

You pray that the Lord Jesus will transform you into Himself.

Please pray the same for Pope Francis.

I pray(when I remember!) for Jesus to grant everyone of Pope Francis’ intentions, IF they are conformed to the will of God.

If Pope Francis wants to influence the Argentinian Senate to reject abortion, I’m confident Jesus would want that, too.


9 posted on 06/19/2018 5:43:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Amazing grace, how sweet the sound / That saved a wretch like me.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If this anti-American and anti-Western Civilization Pope is the last hope for anything, it’s Satan’s desire to continue to deceive the stupid and the weak.


10 posted on 06/19/2018 6:36:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
That is a truly profound and wonderful prayer.

That is the Vincentian Mission Prayer. St. Vincent DePaul was an amazing man and Saint

11 posted on 06/19/2018 6:53:24 PM PDT by FatherofFive (deIslam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Mariner
Whatever else he may be, Pope Francis is in this instance a man who has spoken out against gay 'marriage' and abortion.

I can state for a fact that this is an answer to prayer--- mine, but not only mine, because many people pray for the pope to do the right thing.

When Francis does the right thing,--- even if it's a fluke ---- thank God for it. It's a Catholic thing.

12 posted on 06/19/2018 7:13:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Amazing grace, how sweet the sound / That saved a wretch like me.)
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To: FatherofFive

St. Vincent de Paul is one o my patron saints. Thank you for posting this.


13 posted on 06/19/2018 7:14:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Amazing grace, how sweet the sound / That saved a wretch like me.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
St. Vincent de Paul is one o my patron saints. Thank you for posting this.

We have a Lectio Divina bible study every Monday. We always end with this prayer.

We always start with this one

Come Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of your faithful and enkindle in us the fire of your love.
Send forth Your Spirit, and we shall be created.
And You shall renew the face of the earth.
O, God, who by the light of the Holy Spirit, did instruct the hearts of the faithful, grant that by the same Holy Spirit we may be truly wise and ever rejoice in His consolations.
Through Christ Our Lord. Amen.

14 posted on 06/19/2018 7:30:01 PM PDT by FatherofFive (deIslam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Is the pope a ....?


15 posted on 06/19/2018 7:34:30 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Robert A Cook PE
Is the pope a ....?

No. He isn't

16 posted on 06/19/2018 7:45:12 PM PDT by FatherofFive (deIslam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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