Posted on 07/03/2018 10:30:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
His god the Fraud always condescendingly told us while pretending to be Christian, “Scripture tells us....”
If the person your discussing the matter with doesn't believe in the Bible, you appear to be engaging in circular reasoning, which doesn't persuade an intelligent person.
I saw a video of his sermon called “Because the Bible Told Me So”. The theme of which is that the bible is out of date. He even says that the parables of Jesus make no sense and the OT is myth. He doesn’t love the bible. The opposite is true. This guy is an apostate through and through. He’s talking to those with itching ears.
This guy is getting more confused and confusing by the day. Christians need to study both the Old and New Testament, and that will never change.
That is simply not true. The OT quotes and allusions by Peter, James, and Paul are so great in number that it's foolish to admit otherwise.
“Once upon a time that was very effective in our country. Those days are long gone. But unfortunately, church leaders still want to leverage ‘the Bible says,’ which is great for people who take the Bible seriously,” said Stanley.
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What A Maroon.
What does he say instead?
“In my opinion...” or maybe “The way I feel about it is...”
The fact is - I don’t want to hear any man’s ideas about salvation, life, death, morality and so on.
Only “What the Bible says” is of any relevance.
Period.
Sadly, my nephew and his family attend this church.
So what other sources should be used to evangelize about Jesus Christ other than the Bible?
andy stanley is a heretic- He wants to reshape the bible so that it becomes ‘palatable to sinners’- He apparently thinks it’s his job to make the bible into something that doesn’t offend in the slightest-
And how do we know that Jesus said this? The Bible says He did.
Maybe he should try using the example set down by the Founder of the Church(which is not a building). Ask simply, “Have you not read?” then lead with some infinite wisdom, of which there is plenty.
“’And when somebody predicts their own death and resurrection and pulls it off, I go with whatever they say.’”
And how do we know Jesus predicted this and pulled it off? The Bible says He did.
Christ quoted the OT for validation of many things.
He didn’t appear to “move past it” or think it was fantasy make believe.
Speaking only in general terms, I am very concerned that there seems to be a growing movement within evangelical circles that has mediatized from the mainline protestant churches. That movement is to eagerly contour as close as possible to our culture under the guise of being seeker friendly, or trying to reach Millenials and the unchurched.
While some of that motivation may be true, I do fear that many evangelical churches are shrinking back in fear of being out-of-step with the potent cultural forces. They want to be aligned with the culture in order to fly under the radar and avoid any public controversy.
Is that the way of the One who walked the road of Calvary? Or is it simply easier to cloak your submission to the culture in terms of being “seeker friendly”?
The Gospel offends. Jesus is a stumbling block to many. Some of the things Jesus says are hard. Do we trust in the power of the Holy Spirit to convict and to save, or do we trust in our own cleverness and cunning to trick people into the Gospel?
Sounds like time to find a new Pastor.
The church leadership and the Southern Baptist leadership need to confront Andy Stanley's heresy, strip him of his SBC credentials and remove Stanley from his pastoral position ASAP. If they do not because he is the pastor of a "mega church" and all they really care about is numbers, then they are ALL complicit in his ongoing heresies and the deception of everyone he has the ability to preach, teach and influence.
....the Bereans studied...
What?
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