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Priests Do Not Have Experience to Prepare People for Marriage, Says Vatican Cardinal
The Irish Times ^ | 7/3/18 | Patsy McGarry

Posted on 07/07/2018 3:53:11 PM PDT by marshmallow

Pope Francis, ‘unnoticed, has gradually been putting women into positions of power’

Priests have no credibility when it comes to training people for marriage, according to the most senior Irish cleric in the Vatican.

Cardinal Kevin Farrell, from Drimnagh in Dublin and prefect (head) of the Vatican’s Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life said “priests are not the best people to train others for marriage.

“They have no credibility; they have never lived the experience; they may know moral theology, dogmatic theology in theory, but to go from there to putting it into practice every day....they don’t have the experience.”

Clericalism is dead, the Cardinal behind the World Meeting of Families in Dublin next month also said, “not because we’ve done anything to kill it, but out of sheer numbers.” In Dallas, where he was Bishop from 2007 to 2016, “we have a million and a half Catholics and 75 priests, with a 45 to 50 per cent rate of (Mass) attendance.Those 75 priests are not going to be interested in organising marriage meetings,” he said.

“We have to worry about the 99 per cent, about the baptised, and not worry about the other things we have been obsessed with.” (Dublin’s Catholic archdiocese, with a population of 1.15 million Catholics, has 413 diocesan and religious priests).

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; marriage
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To: Tax-chick
And they lived happily ever after:

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61 posted on 07/07/2018 5:19:28 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

He needs a little video-game beeber in his hands.


62 posted on 07/07/2018 5:26:17 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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To: Tax-chick

He had one but either the dog chomped it or one of the kids hid it.


63 posted on 07/07/2018 5:27:26 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

If Peter was single, how did he have a mother-in-law? (See Matthew 8:14.)


64 posted on 07/07/2018 5:32:56 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: marshmallow

Training people for marriage, in the practical sense, should have already been done by the parents.


65 posted on 07/07/2018 5:34:01 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

C.S. Lewis got heat for giving the Biblical view of marriage before he married. But he said that the Christian view of marriage is based “not on the experiences of men but on the teachings of Christ”.


66 posted on 07/07/2018 5:34:34 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Remember Christ is married. His bride is the Church.


67 posted on 07/07/2018 5:35:01 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: metmom

But worse Metmom is those marriage counselors who have been married three times and divorced three times. Having made a mess of their lives they give trendy advice to impact others.


68 posted on 07/07/2018 5:36:49 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24
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To: SkyDancer

LOL! I’m betting on a kid: the dog doesn’t look quite big enough.


69 posted on 07/07/2018 5:39:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“In the Bible, Jesus and Paul lay out the guidelines for Marriage. Neither of them were ever married.”

Two priests were particularly formative in my own life. One was an older Polish priest (Polish-American) who was a traditional never married priest. He was gruff, but with an incredible heart, and he was a wonderful man. The other was another incredible man who had been a teacher, married with children, until he and his wife were hit by a drunk driver. She died. He finished raising his kids, and then entered Seminary. He brought an entirely different perspective to the priesthood, and has been an incredible priest. I personally think it’s about the person. That said, I think it’s a lot to ask for parish priests to have the wisdom of Jesus or Paul.


70 posted on 07/07/2018 5:41:19 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: metmom
Then they don't love Christ and abuse His Grace if they formed a Christian marriage and divorced. Christ's commands on marriage is quite explicit; a person of age has the mental capacity to understand that. Modern era (Which is no excuse) be damned, people stayed together because they heeded the Word and societies that embraced the Word.

BTW, the Word is crystal clear, even for those who claim Sola Scriptura along with the other "Solas" that go with the Word.

Humility is the essential ingredient for all things, including marriage.

71 posted on 07/07/2018 5:45:08 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: max americana

Send them to the Marriage Encounter weekend in your area.


72 posted on 07/07/2018 5:45:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Um....if Peter was single, then explain in Mark’s Gospel the healing of the mother-in-law of Peter.


73 posted on 07/07/2018 5:46:21 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Tax-chick

You know it’s sad. In my profession I’ve seen my friends marry and when I visit them after they’ve had their first child I can see the sadness. I don’t know why but on the surface they seem happy but on a one-on-one not so much.


74 posted on 07/07/2018 5:49:48 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: max americana

max,

We had five kids when we attended a Marriage Encounter weekend. It changed our lives and we had eight happy years of marriage after that. (Before my husband died from cancer.)

Our kids thanked us profusely and said they did not want their old parents back.


75 posted on 07/07/2018 5:50:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rollo tomasi

**Humility is the essential ingredient for all things, including marriage. **

Along with continuous love and service to and with one another.


76 posted on 07/07/2018 5:52:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Mark 1:29-31.


77 posted on 07/07/2018 5:53:33 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: marshmallow

They didn’t have parents?


78 posted on 07/07/2018 5:55:07 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: max americana

Classy response.


79 posted on 07/07/2018 5:56:36 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: SkyDancer

I think it’s just that life is hard and enjoyment is fleeting ... but recurring.


80 posted on 07/07/2018 6:04:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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