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REAL FLESH! REAL BONES! REAL BLOOD! - PART I
Online Sermons ^ | June 13, 2010 | Dr. R. L. Hymers, Jr.

Posted on 07/10/2018 12:24:36 PM PDT by Sontagged

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Okay, I’m game.

You believe that Jesus did not have blood in His body after the Resurrection... or not?


21 posted on 07/10/2018 2:35:53 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged
I identified the 'character' you are exhibiting. You lack spiritual discernment, as evidenced by your two posts of the same passage nut altered slightly one to the other, yet you do not see your own first error! FIRST we will changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye to be like HIM, then we will see HIM as He really is.

Your mind is ruled by the natural man, who is too easily deceived by the false reasoning from demonic influences.

22 posted on 07/10/2018 2:39:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

You spewed forth just as I was answering.

Quit trying to make this into a character assassination.

You even have my gender wrong.

Flesh is not sustained by Spirit, but by blood.

Jesus said He was not a Spirit, but flesh and bone and you idiotically make a case that this means He didn’t have blood in His body?

That’s a dumb argument.

Note I’m not saying you are dumb, just that you are using dumb arguments.


23 posted on 07/10/2018 2:39:56 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged

You asserted: “It’s pretty straightforward. Jesus went in His fleshly physical body up to Heaven in the Acension, with blood in it. Then He was glorified.” You are assertind as proof that which you seek to prove. You are deceived.


24 posted on 07/10/2018 2:41:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Oh, I forgot, you are a Rapture believer as well as a Shroud Of Turin radiation light believer.

Flesh is sustained by blood, not spirit. You do not believe in the physical fleshly body Resurrection of Christ, as He so perfectly demonstrated.

You believe in a different Christ, if you believe He did not have blood in His body when He showed Himself to His disciples and said “touch me” “it is Me Myself!” and I am NOT a Spirit but flesh and bone.


25 posted on 07/10/2018 2:44:27 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged
You accused, "All of this nonsense about a spiritual bloodless body is Gnosticism." Son, not one post so far has made the assertion that you now accuse me of. I am telling you, I am not endorsing the gnostic lie. I AM TELLING YOU that you do not yet have any, that's right you have zero evidence that the body Jesus ascended in had blood providing the life for it. And Jesus even leaves out the word blood when He appears to the disciples after the resurrection!

You are deceived.

26 posted on 07/10/2018 2:45:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Do you believe Jesus had flesh and bone and blood in His body at the Resurrection?

No?

Then you do not believe He was revivified in the same physical flesh He had on the Cross.

And this type of deceptive theology infers a problem of overall ‘unbelief”.

(Just using one of my ‘gifts of discernment” as Paul says we are to judge those inside the church, but not those outside.)


27 posted on 07/10/2018 2:48:00 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged
Ah, so we now have the explanation for your astate of deception: "Flesh is not sustained by Spirit, but by blood."

THE BIBLE tells you, if you finally read it all, that physical real bodies will be sustained by The Spirit. You lack full knowledge of what God has given for your edification. Now, when I show you the passage in The WOrd of God which refutes your assertion, how will you deal with it?

28 posted on 07/10/2018 2:49:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

LOL, you just can’t take it, that Jesus said what He meant and meant what He said:

He was resurrected in the exact same body of flesh that He was crucified in, and He was not changed or glorified, until after the Ascension.

As per John, an eyewitness, who said “we will not know what we will become until we see Him” ... meaning John had NOT seen the glorified Christ when he wrote that, meaning that the resurrected flesh of Jesus was the exact same as what John touched and felt with the other disciples.

Quit adding to the Word of God these strange doctrines of a bloodless flesh and bone body...


29 posted on 07/10/2018 2:54:40 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: MHGinTN

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit...

... life is in the blood...

and oxygen to sustain the flesh and bones is carried in the blood, and born in the BONE marrow.

Lord bless.


30 posted on 07/10/2018 2:59:40 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged
Read the following very carefully:

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. (KJV)

1 John 3:2 beloved, now, children of God are we, and it was not yet manifested what we shall be, and we have known that if he may be manifested, like him we shall be, because we shall see him as he is

;(Young's Literal translation)

1 John 3:2 Dearly beloved, we are now the sons of God; and it hath not yet appeared what we shall be. We know, that, when he shall appear, we shall be like to him: because we shall see him as he is.(Douay-Rheims)

1 John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.(NIV)

Those versions ALL show you that we will be like Him in order to see Him as He is. First, you must be transformed to be like HIM, THEN you will be able to see Him as He is, not before.

To know where to begin explanation of how we get lif AFTER the Rapture, I need to know if you have yet learned what water in spiritual context denotes. Will you tell me what you think it denotes?

31 posted on 07/10/2018 3:28:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Sontagged

I think I made it clear that this is not an issue that is core to Christianity, nor necessary for salvation.

It is not supported enough in Scripture to make it something to major upon, but only for idle speculation.

Therefore, there are many more valuable ways to spend my time than a “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin” discussion.

If it is very important to you, great.

I wish you well in your discussion.

Blessings.


32 posted on 07/10/2018 3:34:37 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Sontagged
Rev 11:11 But after the three and a half days, the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet. Those who watched them were terrified.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, except anyone be born from above, he is not able to see the kingdom of God.”

John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless anyone be born of water and of the Spirit, he is not able to enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That having been born of the flesh is flesh, and that having been born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not wonder that I said to you, ‘It is necessary for you all to be born from above.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but you do not know from where it comes and where it goes. Thus is everyone having been born of the Spirit.”

33 posted on 07/10/2018 3:45:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m open to hear out your reasonings... so tell me what you want me to understand...


34 posted on 07/10/2018 3:45:58 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged

I see the angels have moved to a bigger dance floor!


35 posted on 07/10/2018 3:51:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I think is an issue for me because the power of the revivification of the corpse of Jesus needs to be firmly planted in our minds...

,,, for it is by this same power we also are come from death to life in the Spirit

...for it is by this Resurrection power that we are saved and forgiven and given an abundant life in Christ.

I just want us as Christians to hold dear to the same power that raised Christ from the dead... this Resurrection power is now, inside of us, to do good works in Christ! (AMEN!)

Blessings on you and yours.


36 posted on 07/10/2018 3:51:38 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: elcid1970
Food is a Biblical metaphor for life and the Eucharist is food for eternal life.

Sure it is.

And just REMEMBER that!

It is NOT 'real' Messianic blood!

37 posted on 07/10/2018 3:53:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I needed to do the research that the Baptists who wrote this article apparently did!

I was shocked that I feel exactly the same way about Fuller Theological Seminary that the author of this article feels. And most of the charismatic leaders of the cultic NAR were borne out of Fuller.


38 posted on 07/10/2018 3:55:12 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged

First, do you know why the partiers in Daniel 5 could not see anything but the hand of the real, physical being writing the judgment on the wall? ... And it has nothing to do with Harry Potter’s invisibility cloak. ;^)


39 posted on 07/10/2018 4:01:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Sontagged

BTW, what is the NAR, and who is ‘Fuller’?


40 posted on 07/10/2018 4:02:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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