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1 posted on 08/09/2018 1:38:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

I don’t get it. If you’re tempted by the flesh, squeeze one off in private. But, I really don’t get those can get into affairs.


2 posted on 08/09/2018 2:14:30 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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And yet, the same people who screamed and laughed at VP Pence for obeying the “Graham” rule will scream that this shows that Christians are all hypocrites.

But nobody in Sierra Leone ever questions me about following the “Graham” rule, because they know that sin exists and we must flee from it.


3 posted on 08/09/2018 3:12:30 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: US Navy Vet
“We made a mistake,” he told the crowd gathered for the 2008 Global Leadership Summit (GLS). A detailed Willow study had found that the church had helped many people find new faith in Jesus, but had failed to teach them how to practice the spiritual disciplines needed to grow their faith.

Wow, back in the early 1990s, I told this to my friends (one of whom was attending Willow Creek) this was a big issue with mega churches.

4 posted on 08/09/2018 4:12:56 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: US Navy Vet

We’ve seen this over and over with these “Emerging Christianity” megachurches.


6 posted on 08/09/2018 5:06:24 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: US Navy Vet
The quoted part doesn't get to what's going on. This here, from the CT article, does:
Lead pastor Heather Larson announced that she was resigning immediately. The church’s elder board announced that its members would also step down in an orderly fashion by the end of 2018.

Steve Carter, the church’s lead teaching pastor, had already resigned on Sunday, saying he could no longer continue at the church in “good conscience.”

At tonight’s Willow family meeting, elder Missy Rasmussen said she and other church leaders had been blinded by their faith in their founding pastor and had failed to hold Hybels accountable.

“We trusted Bill, and this clouded our judgment,” she said.

I knew their teaching pastor had just resigned. Now the CEO-ish "pastor for running the place" resigns, and the elder board promises to also go away.

Much to say, no time right now.

8 posted on 08/09/2018 5:32:36 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isaiah 27:1)
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Bill Hybels Resigns From Willow Creek Church Amid Misconduct Allegations
'We Do Not Believe the Stories Were All Lies,' Willow Creek Elders Say on Bill Hybels Allegations

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9 posted on 08/09/2018 5:42:30 AM PDT by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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It’s clear that churches were never meant to get this big.

They just don’t work as they lose the personal interconnections between people. They become institutions, not a body.


11 posted on 08/09/2018 5:52:58 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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More sexual abuse occurs in non-Catholic churches than in the Catholic Church.

It seem the truth is starting to leak out.


15 posted on 08/09/2018 8:30:57 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Hasn’t Willow Creek gotten into social justice. I know this will come off sexist but I don’t believe in women having authority over men in the church. Anyone know for sure if they compromised on other issues?


16 posted on 08/09/2018 8:42:47 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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Well, that kinda stuff is bound to happen when the Catholic Church refuses to get with the times and let its pastors marr— oh wait, this is another PROTESTANT pastor accused of sexual misconduct? Nothing to see here, move along.


23 posted on 08/11/2018 12:54:52 AM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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