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Catholic Teaching on Homosexuality Evil, Says [Former Irish President] McAleese
BBC ^ | 8/7/18

Posted on 08/09/2018 7:22:28 PM PDT by marshmallow

The Catholic Church's teaching on homosexuality has been described as "evil" by a former Irish president.

Mary McAleese said she was hopeful the Pope would change the church's position on the issue.

Pope Francis is due to visit the Republic of Ireland this month for the World Meeting of Families, a major event for the Church.

Mrs McAleese, who was president from 1997 to 2011, said she hoped it would be free of "homophobic messages".

The Pope's two-day tour will be the first papal visit to Ireland for almost 40 years.

'Exploded that myth'

Mrs McAleese made her comments about the Church's stance on homosexuality as she received an award for her support for the LGBT community in Ireland, Irish national broadcaster RTÉ reported.

She was the first recipient of the Vanguard Award at the Gaze LGBT film festival in Dublin.

In June she became the first former Irish president to take part in the Dublin Pride parade when she marched with her son Justin and his husband Fionan.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: eussr; fartyshadesofgreen; gaystapo; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; ireland; lavendermafia; liberalagenda; liberalism; marymcaleese; mcaleese

1 posted on 08/09/2018 7:22:28 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

It’s a Romans 1:18-32 kinda era, complete with clowns and animal acts.


2 posted on 08/09/2018 7:28:27 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: marshmallow

Isiah 5:20


3 posted on 08/09/2018 7:29:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: marshmallow
"She told the audience at the film festival that Pope Francis's move on the death penalty last week showed that its teachings could be modified."

That was quick.

4 posted on 08/09/2018 7:30:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine)
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To: marshmallow
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

Bible economy — the death sentence for filthy sodomites.

Still in effect. It’s never been repealed by God.

5 posted on 08/09/2018 8:43:00 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting

Agreed, the Bible is very plain, homosexual acts are an abomination.

However, the Church has never been obligated to push for the civil laws of ancient Israel to be put into effect. Israel, through Judah, the theocratic nation, ceased to exist in 586 BC.

There are a number of death penalty offenses in the Old Testament—part of the civil laws of ancient theocratic Israel. Including for adultery, worshiping idols, and even cursing ones parents. Since theocratic Israel doesn’t exist, those civil laws also—are not binding on the rest of us, as we are not ancient theocratic Israel.

Yes homosexuality is wrong, and a terrible sin. NO, we are not obligated to execute people for it.


6 posted on 08/09/2018 9:49:48 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: AnalogReigns
However, the Church has never been obligated to push for the civil laws of ancient Israel to be put into effect. Israel, through Judah, the theocratic nation, ceased to exist in 586 BC.

Show me in the Bible where it says that Gods eternal law is only intended for Israel? Sodom was destroyed long before Moses received the law. In Jude (:7,8) (New Testsment) Sodom is an example for us today.

Those aspects of the law which were fulfilled in Christ were constrained for a time. This is explained in Hebrews 9:6-10 specifically. The rest of the code is intact.

Believers are in fact fellow citizens of the commonwealth of Israel. All saints, old and new covenant, are joined with Christ as the chief cornerstone framing the entire edifice. See Ephesians 2:11-22. Only the old guards have been done away with and the stewardship given to those who will faithfully execute those responsibilities. See Matthew 21:33-43.

7 posted on 08/10/2018 4:08:20 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: marshmallow

Isaiah 5:20 - Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.


8 posted on 08/10/2018 6:48:12 AM PDT by al_c (https://conventionofstates.com)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"That was quick."

But not surprising. Francis has gone a long way toward destroy the moral authority of the church. Now anyone can point to his acts in defense of their position that any precept of God they don't like no longer applies because society has changed. (As if the ever changing whims of man have anything to do with the immutable will of God)

9 posted on 08/10/2018 7:11:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity
I am amazed by "normalist" Catholic commentators who say Pope Francis could not possibly overturn the Ordinary Magisterium of 2,000 years by such paltry tactics as obscure footnotes, Catechism tweaks, stage-whispers to children, off-the-cuff remarks at 30,000 feet, nods & winks & knowing glances.

Fellow Catholics, he's doing it right before your eyes. The whole project of Modernism can be put in one gesture: Shrug. And in one word: "Whatever."

If you indicate that nobody at the top takes law and doctrine all that seriously, basically the police are eating donuts and you can do what you want.

Heresy?

Shrug.

Whatever.

10 posted on 08/10/2018 8:33:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine)
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