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Searching for the Historic Church: The Allure of Eastern Orthodoxy
Christ United Reformed Church ^ | Dec 2016

Posted on 08/30/2018 10:35:03 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

In the past five or six years, I have known several people who have left Reformed Christianity for Eastern Orthodoxy. Their reasons for making that decision varied. Some were mesmerized by the beauty of the Divine Liturgy. Others found Eastern Orthodoxy (hereafter EO) to offer a greater appreciation for mystery and religious experience than what they had known as a Protestant. All of them, however, were attracted by and eventually convinced of EO’s claim to be the original church founded by Christ.

While I do not agree with their decision, I sympathize with their desire to be part of the historic Christian church, one that stretches back to the days of the early fathers. Many Protestants and evangelicals attest to feeling disconnected with the ancient church, and desire greater certainty that the church they attend has not been drastically changed by the world over the passing centuries.

Some express a genuine desire to know what happened in Christian history before their particular tradition emerged, and how their tradition connects to that history. Some complain that the Protestant narrative of church history makes an illegitimate jump from the era of the apostles to the Reformation, as if the Christian church barely existed during the centuries in between. As one convert explains, “I grew up in a fundamentalist ‘Bible church’ that loved God and had a clear desire to serve him, but I questioned why my church was so isolated from other Christians. By the time I graduated from high school I found something in the more historical faith of Reformed Presbyterianism but still wondered what exactly transpired between the first century A.D. and 1517."

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TOPICS: History; Orthodox Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; christianity; easternorthodoxy; orthodox; protestant
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1 posted on 08/30/2018 10:35:03 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Excellent article. Thank you for posting.


2 posted on 08/30/2018 10:59:55 AM PDT by Terabitten (Time for the GOPe to reap the whirlwind.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
My husband don-o (raised a Baptist, then baptized in Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia -- ROCOR) told me that was exactly the thing that struck him. There was supposedly 1st century NT Christian Church, then there was ... uh...nothing much... and then in 1517, Bang! --- Protestant Reformation and the Truth Reborn!

Obviously can't be the case.

The main attempt to fill in that Big Empty Space, from the POV of their particular Baptist circle, was J.M. Carrolls's pamphlet "The Trail of Blood" which basically embraced every heretical group you ever heard of --- whether they believed in the Trinity or the 27 Books of the NT or not --- to cobble together some kind of 1400 year history out of nothing much...

Turns out the author, Dr. Carroll, actually retracted it when he realized that the groups he had pressed into service as "missing links" between NT Christianity and the 16th century Reformation--- the Paulicians, Donatists, Albigenses, Waldenses, Montanists -- did not even vaguely resemble the Baptist faith, and could not possibly have been co-religionists with each other, let alone forerunners of his denomination.

Close, but no cigar.

3 posted on 08/30/2018 11:14:48 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (It ain't what they don't know that's a problem, it's what they do know that ain't so." - Will Rogers)
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To: Terabitten

Former RC here looking into EO. Hope to become a catechumen perhaps later this year.


4 posted on 08/30/2018 11:23:59 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

To find the early church one must turn to the NT Scriptures. There one will find the early church.


5 posted on 08/30/2018 11:52:06 AM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
Keep in touch with us about how this is going.

I will live and die a Catholic. I do respect the EO church (husband is an EO and we were going to both Mass and Divine Liturgy for 10 years, in the choir, fairly tough Great Lent and all that.)

I admit I've got a big advantage over some Catholics, in that my parish and the Dio of Knoxille are good. It would be a whole lot harder for me if we had a Judas Priest or a Bishop who was on the take (or on the make.)

If I were you, I'd probably see if there was a good Cath parish/Dio within an hour's drive or so. But you may have an entirely different landscape.

God bless. Periodic reports, please!

6 posted on 08/30/2018 11:53:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Will do! Thanks for the kind and encouraging words!


7 posted on 08/30/2018 11:54:37 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Carpe Cerevisi; lightman

Welcome to you!!!!


8 posted on 08/30/2018 12:10:27 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Thank-you for the wonderful article . God Bless. ☺
9 posted on 08/30/2018 1:15:16 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

During the fall when the weather cools down a bit, will check out an Ukrainian Rite Greek Catholic Church not far from the nursing home where my mother went to live before she passed. I have a study Bible that is used by ERC/EO Churches which OT came from EO seminary and NT is crom NKJV.


10 posted on 08/30/2018 1:25:50 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Correction: from.


11 posted on 08/30/2018 1:26:34 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ealgeone

From the historical perspective yes. But cannot deny the reality of the Eastern Christian Churches.


12 posted on 08/30/2018 1:30:02 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I am wondering if the Church is in its own version of a civil war?


13 posted on 08/30/2018 1:31:57 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

If it is the EO then it is not Roman Catholicism.


14 posted on 08/30/2018 2:25:11 PM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: Biggirl

Out of curiosity why aren’t you using the Douay Rheims?


15 posted on 08/30/2018 2:26:25 PM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: NRx; lightman; Honorary Serb

Ping!


16 posted on 08/30/2018 2:37:23 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Interrupt Obama and reporters are racist; interrupt Trump and they're heroes. --Mark Levin)
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To: ealgeone

The newer Bibles have easy to understand English.


17 posted on 08/30/2018 2:55:53 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl
"I am wondering if the Church is in its own version of a civil war?" Yes, I think it is.

In 20 minutes I'm out the door to go teach my RCIA class. Our lesson this week is on Sacramentals. But I'm going to hand out a 1-page outline of the basic crisis that's hit over the last month, and next week, when I do my Intro lesson on Church History, I'm going to put some major emphasis on "Crises in the Church."

It's a challenging topic to tackle, especially with (mostly) youngish adults who have zero experience in the Church and possibly little awareness of history in general. But I'm going to try to explain that, Yes, this is a atime of major danger and disunity in the Church. Civil war, as you might say --- though there's no shooting. Yet.

And I'll try to show how God has dealt with these situations in the past. First, you go through a season of catastrophic loss. Then people seriously repent, and call on the Lord to save us. Then, God raises up saints to pull us out of the fire, set us back on our feet, and start anew.

I'm in a hurry just now. I'll get back on this later!

18 posted on 08/30/2018 3:17:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No. Anything else comes from the Evil One." - Matt. 5:37)
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To: Ad Orientam; antonius; aposiopetic; arielguard; bad company; blinachka; bob808; Brad's Gramma; ...
Orthodox Ping!

Save Thy people, O Lord,
and bless Thine inheritance.
Grant victory to Thy Church over her enemies,
and protect Thy people by Thy Holy Cross!

19 posted on 08/30/2018 3:43:14 PM PDT by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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To: ealgeone; Honorary Serb
To find the early church one must turn to the NT Scriptures. There one will find the early church.

To find the early church one must look outside the Book to the Church which gave the Book to the world.

The Church predates the canon of scriptures for it was the Church which determined the canon of scripture.

20 posted on 08/30/2018 3:48:28 PM PDT by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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