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Vatican II Church Meltdown Day 8
Novus Ordo Watch ^ | September 8, Anno Domini 2018 | (Editor)

Posted on 09/02/2018 3:21:38 AM PDT by Repent and Believe

The Latest on the Viganò Letter Drama…

Developments & Reactions

[New developments being added as we become aware of them]

This post continues our coverage of the ongoing ecclesiastical Chernobyl unleashed by the accusations of the former Vatican nuncio to the United States, “Abp.” Carlo Viganò, which were first published on Aug. 25 and have the potential not only to bring an end to the Francis “pontificate” but even to throw the entire Vatican II Sect into unprecedented chaos:

Saturday, Sep. 1, 2018

“Abp.” Carlo Viganò releases new letter revealing ‘what really happened’ when Francis met privately with Kim Davis during his 2015 visit to the United States FULL DOCUMENT TEXT HERE

Francis’ mouthpiece “Fr.” Antonio Spadaro, S.J., says in tweet that Vigano’s testimony about the Kim Davis meeting “doesn’t make sense at all”

Gianluigi Nuzzi, the journalist behind the two “Vatileaks” affairs, says that “Abp.” Vigano is credible

Ed Pentin reports on Viganò’s responses to videos appearing to show inconsistencies with his testimony Reactions from Select Blogs and Web Sites

Vaticanist Andrea Tornielli comments on “Abp.” Vigano’s Aug. 31 interview with LifeSiteNews

Trying to determine whether the Vigano Letter’s accusations correspond to the truth, The New York Times notes that both Francis and Benedict XVI “could clear up the confusion created by the letter. Neither one has.”

To explain Francis’ behavior, a blogger reminds his readers of Francis’ Peronist modus operandi first exposed in Omar Bello’s book El Verdadero Francisco (“The True Francis”)

“Fr.” Dwight Longenecker suspects that if Francis continues his “sad silence” in face of these grave allegations, “we may see the development of a lame duck papacy”

Dr. Joseph Shaw opines that the enablers of abuse are as much of a problem as the abusers themselves Chris Ferrara responds to the “neo-Catholic polemic” addressing the Vigano accusations

Tom Droleskey on ‘Another Front in the Conciliar War’, Part 4

Prof. Francis Beckwith points out that “if the media make the request to examine the documents and memos cited in Archbishop Viganò’s testimony, the Holy Father cannot refuse without undermining his credibility and by default his papacy”

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Crux‘s Inés San Martín provides a handy overview: ‘Who’s who in drama of cover-up accusation against Pope Francis?’

“Fr.” Michael Holleran of the Archdiocese of New York draws perverted analogy to say sodomites are spiritually “more receptive”

Prior Days’ Coverage

Days 1-3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7

Let’s see if Francis will face some jeers at the Angelus window tomorrow…


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Theology
KEYWORDS: francis; rcccivilwar; sedevacantism; sexualabuse; sodomy
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You can tell a tree by its fruit.

The tree in question is the so-called "Vatican II" council and the apostates who arranged, executed, and since have promulgated it.

1 posted on 09/02/2018 3:21:38 AM PDT by Repent and Believe
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To: Repent and Believe

Rather RCC Civil War.


2 posted on 09/02/2018 3:28:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

It’s even more interesting to watch than McCain v. Trump.


3 posted on 09/02/2018 3:42:12 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Biggirl

Wrong. Impossible that there can be a civil war in the Bride of Christ. Rather disruption of embedded infidels, yes. Not war.


4 posted on 09/02/2018 3:46:46 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Repent and Believe

This whole spectacle is disturbing. It seems that highly-placed church officials are using their office to promote the gay agenda.


5 posted on 09/02/2018 3:49:38 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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To: Repent and Believe
You can tell a tree by its fruit.

Or, in this case, its fruits.

We are living through the end of a major Christian heresy.

The end is not yet in sight, and, I suppose, we should listen for the trumpets - but this carefully laid-out plan to use the structures of the RCC to mainstream male homosexuality is coming apart right before our eyes.

6 posted on 09/02/2018 4:01:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Repent and Believe

If not a civil war than what? I would compare it to a cancer. Some of the cells have become malignant and threaten the life of the body. Even the brain is affected as the cancer spreads into the intellectual centers of the Church. The heart is still healthy but because of the strict hierarchy, the death of the brain threatens the entire body.


7 posted on 09/02/2018 4:07:00 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Repent and Believe

Remember what happened in the Bible after the death of King Solomon and the break-up of Israel into two kingdoms?

So that makes me correct.


8 posted on 09/02/2018 4:30:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Repent and Believe

MARTIN LUTHER WAS RIGHT!!!!!


9 posted on 09/02/2018 5:13:18 AM PDT by buffyt (Proud Lutheran)
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To: I want the USA back

That has been aparent for years. What is new is the notables finally moving to cleanse the Church, to drain the Swamp to coin a phrase.


10 posted on 09/02/2018 5:41:50 AM PDT by arthurus (fg)
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To: buffyt

Martin Luther was LEFT, actually.


11 posted on 09/02/2018 6:01:31 AM PDT by arthurus (n)
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To: buffyt

MARTIN LUTHER WAS RIGHT!!!!!

Martin Luther was a heretic.

12 posted on 09/02/2018 6:18:51 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: Repent and Believe

I don't understand why Archbishop Viganó's title is always in quotes in the article, as “Abp.,” and the title Father is always in quotes, as in "Fr."

13 posted on 09/02/2018 6:20:51 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

“Martin Luther was a heretic.

Unless you define the Scriptures as true.

Fortunately, he was’t buggering boys.


14 posted on 09/02/2018 6:38:48 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Fortunately, he was’t buggering boys.

And how do you know that?

15 posted on 09/02/2018 6:48:01 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Blessed Saint Luther wasn’t gay, like Rome’s priesthood today.

He was very happily married and wrote about his dear wife and children many times.

Nor was an accusation of sexual impropriety raised against him.


16 posted on 09/02/2018 7:20:07 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: BlessedBeGod
Martin Luther was a heretic.

Oh wow, are you ever in for a shock when you finally realize, you're in the exact same position that Catholics were in Luther's day, just a different form of corruption. Praying for your own modern day Martin Luther is what you should be doing, rather than circling the wagons.

17 posted on 09/02/2018 7:25:57 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BlessedBeGod

Martin Luther was right about some of the corruption in the church.

However, he was a heretic and proclaimed his own religion and away from the teachings of Christ, and led many astray from the Truth of Jesus and the Catholic Church.

Like today, we have corruption in the Catholic church, but we need to stand with Jesus in the Church that He founded and help cleanse the church of its sinfulness. We follow Christ and not sinful men.

Many will blame the Catholic Church and not evil sinful actions of many.


18 posted on 09/02/2018 7:33:12 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

He was very happily married and wrote about his dear wife and children many times.
Nor was an accusation of sexual impropriety raised against him.

Yep, cause we all know that no gay man has ever married or had children, or not had any accusations against him. < /s>

19 posted on 09/02/2018 7:33:22 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Praying for your own modern day Martin Luther is what you should be doing, rather than circling the wagons.

What we're doing is trying to clean out the Church, not abandon it.

I didn't abandon this country when that POS Clinton or that POS Obama was elected, nor abandon the concept of a federal republic. I'm not going to abandon the doctrine of the Catho9lic Church just because there are POSes in it, either.

20 posted on 09/02/2018 7:38:23 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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