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Defending Pope Francis, Vatican Allies May Strengthen Vigaṇ... [Self-Parody Rules] (Cath Caucus)
New York Times ^ | September 2, 2018 | Jason Horowitz

Posted on 09/04/2018 12:10:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

ROME — Retaliating against a remarkable campaign from within the church to force the ouster of Pope Francis, the Vatican’s former spokesman issued a statement on Sunday night questioning the credibility of [Vigano]. Vatican officials and the pope said that he had ambushed Francis in 2015 by setting up a private meeting with Kim Davis, who became a conservative celebrity by refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses.

[snipperoo]

On Sunday, Father Lombardi issued a joint statement with [Francis-spox] Rev. Thomas Rosica, noting that Viganò had spoken the night before the meeting (with Kim Davis) with the pope and his collaborators and had received a consensus.

Father Lombardi and Father Rosica nevertheless said Francis had felt “deceived” by Archbishop Viganò. [This has] less to do with her role in the fight against gay marriage than with her own marital history. “You never told me that she had four husbands,” the pope protested,...

[snippatootie]

This week, an article in The New York Times quoted a Chilean abuse survivor, Juan Carlos Cruz, as recounting that Francis had told him that Archbishop Viganò sneaked Ms. Davis into the Vatican Embassy in Washington for the private meeting. The pope told him he had not known who she was or why she was a contentious figure, Mr. Cruz said.

Mr. Cruz recalled the pope saying, “I was horrified and I fired that nuncio.”

Archbishop Viganò, in the letter published on Friday by LifeSiteNews, a conservative Catholic outlet, said Mr. Cruz’s account had prompted him to set the record straight.

“One of them is lying: either Cruz or the pope,” he wrote. “What is certain is that the pope knew very well who Davis was, and he and his close collaborators had approved the private audience.”

On Sunday, the pope’s allies seemed to confirm that.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Humor; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: kimdavis; ludicrous; popefrancis; vigano

I put "humor" in the Topics and "ludicrous" in the Keywords because this is truly John Semmens level, Babylon Bee or Onion material. The Grima Wormtongues at the Vatican (Rosica and Lombardi) are honest-to-God flailing around in the self-parody zone.

OMG! Kim Davis was married four times! And we all KNOW how embarrassed and intolerant Pope Francis is about any hint of irregular marital situations!

You wouldn't expect him to be in the same room with uh, uh, that woman, a Pentecostal Divorcee, would you?

Whoo. Catching my breath.

Have at it, Mr. Semmons. You do it much better than I.

1 posted on 09/04/2018 12:10:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: John Semmens
Since I mentioned you, dear sir, I'm pinging you.

Chutzpah Alert!

I think this is rich. Just rich.

2 posted on 09/04/2018 12:12:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If you see something, say something.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Al Hitan; Biggirl; Big Red Badger; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; heterosupremacist; ..

ping


3 posted on 09/04/2018 12:14:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

perhaps the first “reform” to help Drain the Church Swamp would be to ban Viagra and sex toys from the Vatican and all church properties (monasteries, etc.)? It would at least be a good symbolic step forward...


4 posted on 09/04/2018 12:16:00 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Too bad Kim Davis wasn’t in Bath Co., KY. The Wife of Bath had 5 husbands.


5 posted on 09/04/2018 12:38:36 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Mr. Cruz recalled the pope saying, “I was horrified and I fired that nuncio.”

Archbishop Viganò, in the letter published on Friday by LifeSiteNews, a conservative Catholic outlet, said Mr. Cruz’s account had prompted him to set the record straight.

“One of them is lying: either Cruz or the pope,” he wrote.

Well, considering Francis didn't "fire that nuncio," I guess it must be Francis who's lying.

6 posted on 09/04/2018 12:54:41 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

NY Times? Yikes!


7 posted on 09/04/2018 12:58:29 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Pope resembles Obama in both thought and deed. Obama high-jacked the democrat party to radically change the country.

The Pope is high-jacking the Catholic Church to radically change the world. Obama showed more concern for illegal immigrants than Americans.

The Pope is more concerned about migrants than the sexually abused youth of the Church.

Obama used the organs of government to crush his enemies. The Pope is doing much the same with the offices of the Church.


8 posted on 09/04/2018 1:07:36 PM PDT by kaintucky
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Maybe we are missing the more significant point! The warm friendship between Juan Carlos Cruz (abusee, payee, homo and jetsetter) and Bergoglio.


9 posted on 09/04/2018 9:25:35 PM PDT by Marchmain (pax)
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To: Marchmain
Interesting angle. Bergoglio confides in Juan Carlos Cruz that he'n'God love him just the way he is (dude: you're perfect, stay as sweet as you are) and detests "that woman", Kim Davis and was infuriated to be in the same room with her. Whatever.

I keep thinking I couldn't be more disgusted with the lying, devious Bergoglio, and he keeps challenging me by going lower still. This idea that he and Cruz are now BFFs and Davis is called "horrifying" behind her back (but "courageous" to her face)--- what a solid deposit of the outhouse kind.

This is all a near occasion of sin for me, morally dangerous, because it assails me with a kind of anger and cynicism that I don't handle well.

I need a cleaner, purer, more accurate anger.

I need to detest this pit of filth but still love those who are neck=deep in it.

10 posted on 09/05/2018 7:10:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For peace within your gates, speak truth and judge with sound judgment." - Zechariah 8:16)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Always begin and end with praying for their repentance and conversion.


11 posted on 09/05/2018 7:14:19 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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