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[Catholic Caucus] Vatican II Church Meltdown – Day 11
Novus Ordo Watch ^ | September 4, 2018 | Editor

Posted on 09/05/2018 4:06:16 AM PDT by Repent and Believe

The Latest on the Viganò Letter Drama… Developments & Reactions

This post continues our coverage of the ongoing ecclesiastical Chernobyl unleashed by the accusations of the former Vatican nuncio to the United States, “Abp.” Carlo Viganò, which were first published on Aug. 25 and have the potential not only to bring an end to the Francis “pontificate” but even to throw the entire Vatican II Sect into unprecedented chaos:

Monday, Sep. 4, 2018

German television is rerunning a documentary accusing Francis of ignoring and covering up sex abuse in Argentina when he was “Cardinal” Jorge Bergoglio

CNN reports that “Cardinal” Donald Wuerl met with “Pope” Francis last week in the Vatican, “where they discussed the cardinal’s personal situation”

“Bishop” Stefan Oster of Passau, Germany, has signaled his support for Francis

A Crux correspondent writes that ‘Francis seeks to speak through silence’ on the Vigano letter

In his homily for the day, Francis references “gossip” as a sin to be avoided

The Italian newspaper Il Fatto Quotidiano reports that the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has a dossier on “Cardinal” Kevin Farrell, the former roommate of McCarrick, and says it is a new “bomb” waiting to explode

“Cardinal” Anders Arborelius of Stockholm, Sweden, says “there is a danger that some people may exploit this difficult situation to undermine [Francis’] mission as the Successor of Peter”

The Novus Ordo bishops of Portugal have thanked Francis for his “determination” in fighting the abuse of minors (Spanish)

Reactions from Select Blogs and Web Sites

A homeschool mom from California dissects James Martin’s ‘Twitter Manifesto’ on the church sex abuse abominations

Related Stories

“Archbishop” William Goh of Singapore has assured the world that although there have been a few allegations of child abuse in his diocese, there have been no cover-ups

Two Novus Ordo priests from Blase Cupich’s Chicago archdiocese have been arrested in Miami Beach, Florida, after being caught in a sex act inside a vehicle near a children’s playground — Another report with statement from diocese here — Another report with some background information here

Trying to be ‘frank about Francis’, theology professor Douglas Farrow utters explicit heresy: “…the bishop of Rome is the vicar of Christ, not the vicar of God”

“Bp.” Joseph Bambera of Scranton, Pennsylvania, has forbidden his predecessor, James Timlin, “from representing the Diocese of Scranton at all public events, liturgical or otherwise”

Crux‘s Inés San Martín notes that the current sex abuse scandal ‘threatens to overshadow’ the upcoming youth synod in October

Prior Days’ Coverage

Days 1-3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7 Day 8 Day 9 Day 10

EWTN’s News Nightly covers the latest in the ongoing saga, with a report from the Vatican, in this Sep. 4 broadcast:

Sedevacantist Fr. William Jenkins discusses ‘Modernism’s Legacy of Perversion’ in the following video:

Until tomorrow. Yes, we are trying hard to get content about something other than this issue published, but the Vigano drama is very time-consuming to track and track it we must.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; francis; heretic; pope; scandal
Links and pictures at web page.

September is the Month of Our Sorrowful Mother.

May she console the Bride of Christ as the wicked are rooted out of her midst.

Let us make reparation to her immaculate heart for the numerous sins committed against it, and join her is consoling Jesus on the Cross.

1 posted on 09/05/2018 4:06:16 AM PDT by Repent and Believe
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To: Repent and Believe

On the outside, looking in.

Can you explain why
[...theology professor Douglas Farrow utters explicit heresy: “…the bishop of Rome is the vicar of Christ, not the vicar of God”...]
is explicit heresy?

TIA


2 posted on 09/05/2018 4:50:47 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Denying the deity of Christ.


3 posted on 09/05/2018 4:57:16 AM PDT by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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To: Repent and Believe

Thanks for the update.

We non-Catholics who respect the Church hope y’all clean house! The world needs a strong and true Catholicism that doesn’t boink boys.

Bookmarking for updates.


4 posted on 09/05/2018 5:29:13 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Sessions IS the swamp.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“On the outside, looking in.

Can you explain why
[...theology professor Douglas Farrow utters explicit heresy: “…the bishop of Rome is the vicar of Christ, not the vicar of God”...]
is explicit heresy?

TIA”

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(You are welcome!)

The heresy is an implicit denial that Jesus and God are not one and the same.

As every good Catholic attests, Jesus is the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, Who is God.

Good question.

Further questions can be addressed via mail, as this is a Catholic Caucus.

Thank you.


5 posted on 09/05/2018 5:32:01 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Repent and Believe
"Novus Ordo Watch" appears to be trying to blame Vatican II for the homosexual crisis.

I haven't worked through all the "predator priests" in the PA report, but a quick survey shows many of the perpetrators were ordained before VII, and others ordained after VII were sufficiently close in time that they had to have gotten their seminary formation prior to VII.

6 posted on 09/05/2018 9:34:32 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Repent and Believe
"Novus Ordo Watch" appears to be trying to blame Vatican II for the homosexual crisis.

I haven't worked through all the "predator priests" in the PA report, but a quick survey shows many of the perpetrators were ordained before VII, and others ordained after VII were sufficiently close in time that they had to have gotten their seminary formation prior to VII.

7 posted on 09/05/2018 9:34:33 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Not sure why the double post.


8 posted on 09/05/2018 9:36:36 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Repent and Believe

If people go to the source they will find hot links for all these statements.

Too bad thy aren’t posted here.


9 posted on 09/05/2018 10:10:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Mind you, all the priests ordained from the time of Pope St. Pius X at least through Pope Pius XII were to have taken the Oath Against Modernism.

Modernism is the synthesis of all heresies, per Pope St. Pius X!

A participant in V2 stated after the council, “Modernism has triumphed”.

What does that suggest about the root of the tree bearing such rotten fruit?


10 posted on 09/05/2018 12:10:59 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Salvation

Why?

Just go to the web page article and you’ll get all the links and pictures, to boot.


11 posted on 09/05/2018 12:29:59 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Repent and Believe
"A participant in V2 stated after the council, “Modernism has triumphed”. What does that suggest about the root of the tree bearing such rotten fruit?"

ONE person makes ONE COMMENT and that supposedly destroys all of Vatican II?? This is called "anecdotal data" in the sciences and means virtually nothing. What did the other participants think?? This is called "cherry-picking" the data to match your prejudices.

And as I mentioned previously, the larger number of predator priests in the report were definitely NOT "rotten fruits of Vatican II". Their "roots" are elsewhere.

12 posted on 09/05/2018 1:21:58 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog

The comment is actually based more on observations of fact as one examines the attacks on Catholic doctrine, attacks established at the council, more than on one man’s comment. His comment is merely a significant red flag.

If you explore Novus Ordo Watch website you will quickly discover that V2 opened wide the doors to evil including invalidation of ordinations and consecrations (let alone embracing modernism, which is a rebellion against Saint Pope Pius X’s direction and teaching regarding the same. Just read Pope Pius X’s writings on the topic then start reading the documents of V2 and you will soon see two opposite doctrine being conveyed!)

When men who are thought to be but are NOT actual priests they lack the grace to prevail in such a vocation. Also the evils of V2 made more and more men who lacked qualifications to be attracted to the “vocation”.


13 posted on 09/05/2018 2:16:37 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Wonder Warthog

Here is another helpful viewpoint on the culpability of V2:

A sedevacantist blogger comments on the relationship between ‘perversion and Modernism’:

“...This post will demonstrate the link between Modernism and rampant sexual perversion in the Vatican II sect. It will be shown how (a) Christ condemns homosexuality, (b) the Magisterium condemns it, and the Vatican II sect then changes course, leading to perversion’s acceptance in society with devastating consequences...”

https://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2018/09/perversion-and-modernism.html


14 posted on 09/12/2018 9:54:39 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Wonder Warthog

‘Priests accused of abuse in the Pennsylvania grand jury report, on average, were born in 1933 and ordained as priests in 1961. Outside of Pennsylvania, allegations of abuse have also been levied recently against former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. He was similarly born in 1930 and ordained a priest in 1958.’

from here:

http://nineteensixty-four.blogspot.com/2018/08/pain-never-disappears-from-unhealed.html?m=1

Freegards


15 posted on 09/12/2018 9:59:20 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Repent and Believe
With all due respect, this crisis started well before Vatican II. Here is a great homily by Fr. Robert Altier which explains the infiltration of the clergy by communists and homosexuals many years before V-II.

I recommend all listen to this homily, which was posted earlier by someone else. It gives great reference material about what is going on.

16 posted on 09/12/2018 10:07:04 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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