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Methodist Pastor Uses Bible Verse to Defend Forcing Christians to Fund Abortions
LIFE NEWS ^ | September 7, 2018 | Micaiah Bilger

Posted on 09/07/2018 1:36:49 PM PDT by Morgana

An Indiana minister who claims to be a pro-life Christian testified against a religious freedom ruling Friday during U.S. Senate hearings on Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

Alicia Baker, a community development organizer and ordained Free Methodist Church minister from Indianapolis, urged the Senate to oppose Kavanaugh’s confirmation because of his decision to grant religious exemptions to the Obamacare HHS mandate.

“If Judge Kavanaugh is confirmed, access to affordable birth control will be in jeopardy,” Baker said. “This committee and the Senate must weigh the harmful impact Judge Kavanaugh would have on the health and well being of so many people.”

In 2015, Kavanaugh sided with Priests for Life in its challenge of the Obamacare HHS mandate while serving on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. He said the government should not force religious employers to provide drugs and devices that may cause abortions.

“I concluded that penalizing someone thousands and thousands of dollars for failing to fill out a form because of their religious beliefs was wrong,” Kavanaugh said during the hearing Thursday.

Baker disagreed, arguing that women will suffer if religious organizations are exempted from the pro-abortion mandate.

“Jesus directs us to advocate for a just society that allows people to live their lives to the fullest,” Baker said. “And this means supporting access to affordable birth control, because by permitting individuals to plan if, whether and when to become pregnant, birth control allows us to live our fullest lives.”

In her opening remarks, Baker claimed to be a pro-life Christian. But most employers who challenged the HHS mandate are pro-life Christians who did not want to be forced to provide birth control that may cause abortions. The most well-known HHS challenger, Hobby Lobby, objected to just four forms of birth control that may act as abortifacients, including the IUD and ella; it provided 16 other forms to its employees without objection.

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Baker said she became involved in the fight right before her wedding when her insurance would not cover her IUD. She said she and her husband decided that, for financial reasons, they would wait a little while before having children. Baker said her doctor recommended an IUD because of previous trouble she had had with hormonal birth control. However, her insurance company would not cover the device – something that Baker said left her “shocked” and caused a lot of stress right up to her wedding.

Her insurance told her it did not cover the device because it can act as an abortifacient, something Baker refused to believe.

However, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Office of Women’s Health, it does. Its website described the device this way in 2014: “It [sic – If] fertilization does occur, the IUD keeps the fertilized egg from implanting in the lining of the uterus.” A fertilized egg is already a living human being with his/her own unique DNA.

Baker fought her insurance company and eventually joined a lawsuit with the pro-abortion National Women’s Law Center to challenge the Trump administration’s rule expanding religious exemptions under the HHS mandate.

Kavanaugh could hear the lawsuit if he is confirmed and the case comes before the Supreme Court. That worries Baker.

“My faith dictates that I must speak out on behalf of the millions of women who stand to lose access to affordable birth control if Judge Kavanaugh is confirmed,” she said. “As a person of deep faith, I would never impose my religious beliefs on anyone – and no one else should either.”

But women like Baker have not been prevented from accessing birth control, including types that may cause abortions. Baker paid for hers herself, and other women may do so as well if their employers object.

Kavanaugh was correct in siding with religious individuals who the government threatened with heavy fines if they did not comply. Religious freedom is a core part of America, and religious individuals should not be forced to either give up their businesses or pay huge fines simply because they object to paying for something that could cause the death of an innocent unborn child. A Christian pastor should recognize that.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; indiana; methodist; prolife
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1 posted on 09/07/2018 1:36:49 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana
As a person of deep faith, I would never impose my religious beliefs on anyone – and no one else should either.

... as she insists that the government should do exactly that.

2 posted on 09/07/2018 1:40:51 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: Morgana

“But most employers who challenged the HHS mandate are pro-life Christians who did not want to be forced to provide birth control that may cause abortions.”

Here’s a thought: If you want this type of controversial birth control, pay for it yourself.


3 posted on 09/07/2018 1:45:08 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Morgana
"And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions" 2 Cor 11:14-15

Something claiming to be an apple tree doesn't produce lemons.

4 posted on 09/07/2018 1:45:26 PM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: Morgana
Alicia Baker, a community development organizer and ordained Free Methodist Church minister

Several problems wrapped up in that bundle ...

5 posted on 09/07/2018 1:46:55 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Morgana
Alicia Baker, a community development organizer and ordained Free Methodist Church minister....

The problem here is as plain as the nose on your face. No need to go any further.

6 posted on 09/07/2018 1:49:24 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: VaeVictis

Powerful verse.


7 posted on 09/07/2018 1:50:15 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Morgana

During my first marriage we attended Methodist services as my wife belonged to that denomination. We had a female pastor for a year who would always steer the sermon to homosexual rights no matter what the stated subject was supposed to be. She also brought along a half dozen gays with full-blown AIDS from her former congregation.


8 posted on 09/07/2018 1:51:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

All l want to know is: Was this “minister” born with a Johnson?


9 posted on 09/07/2018 1:54:55 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Morgana
“Jesus directs us to advocate for a just society that allows people to live their lives to the fullest”...so what would Jesus think about those who snuff out those lives when they have progressed only a few months.....
10 posted on 09/07/2018 2:15:31 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Morgana

“... because by permitting individuals to plan if, whether and when to become pregnant, birth control allows us to live our fullest lives.””


“if whether and when to become pregnant” all happen prior to conception - once conception happens her arguement is no longer valid. Abortions are not preformed prior to conception or positive pregancy test.


11 posted on 09/07/2018 2:18:12 PM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: Morgana

I didn’t have to read past the first sentence to know the “minister” is a woman. Exhibit 1 why the Bible explicitly teaches women to not be pastors.


12 posted on 09/07/2018 2:20:50 PM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: Morgana

The stupid Methodist minister (yes stupid) ignores that those that provide for the payment of health insurance benefits have rights as well, including the right to not be paying for benefits they do not in good conscience support for moral reasons, even when those reasons are not religious. Neither she nor any other woman are PRVENTED from obtaining certain coverages, they simply may not demand others pay for them, if those who would pay for them object. In other words her education either to teach her to improve her use of logic and her religious education failed to teach her any Christian moral duty to human life once conceived.


13 posted on 09/07/2018 2:20:56 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny you should bring that up since you are always blasting Catholics.


14 posted on 09/07/2018 2:30:15 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Campion

I have a verse for her:

Isaiah 5:20A: “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil”


15 posted on 09/07/2018 2:32:43 PM PDT by schaef21
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Anti-babies is anti-Christ.


16 posted on 09/07/2018 2:33:45 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Morgana

He’s no pastor! He’s a mass Murderer!


17 posted on 09/07/2018 2:46:09 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Morgana

What Bible verse is he talking about?


18 posted on 09/07/2018 2:46:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Morgana

The American mainline churches have been taken over by Satan. Christians need to be OUT of those churches.


19 posted on 09/07/2018 2:54:01 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Morgana
Methodist Pastor Uses Bible Verse to Defend Forcing Christians to Fund Abortions

The Methodists, like many other so-called "main stream" denominations have been taken over by evil.

I wonder how this "minister" is going to explain how he justifies killing the unborn when he meets his maker.

20 posted on 09/07/2018 2:56:55 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ('DEPLORABLE' Charter Member of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - and DAMN Proud of it!.)
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