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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No it is not. Rape is Rape, Inappropriate touching is something else. Both are wrong, but one is far more serious. Inappropriate touching is not rape. The overwhelming majority of these cases do no involve rape. Most involve fondling, groping, another group involves sexual acts that do not involve carnal relations, to put it nicely. Forcible rape, No, not true.

And I am not minimizing anything. McCarrick should have been removed for using his office to recruit young men (sexually immature and confused) to seminary and ordain them as priests to use them for his sex partners. Under U.S. law, not illegal, unless he forced himself. Benedict put him in Catholic House arrest, Francis let him out. Only when McCarrick was found to have credibly fondled/groped a 16-17 year old teenage male (which occurred back in 1971) did Francis strip him of his title of Cardinal and put him back in “Catholic House Arrest”.

Where was moral outrage in the state of Alabama, which is a super majority Bible Belt Protestant State in which Judge Roy Moore, credibly accused with groping and inappropriate touching of several 14-16 year old teenage women. He received the majority of the white Bible Belt Protestant vote. The argument was he repented, did not rape anybody, yada, yada, yada,

Now I expect morally Catholic Bishops and Priests to do better than secular judges. But legally, the charges were the same. Statute of Limitations had passed, although Moore is still alive. So should we go back and change statute of limitations for Bible Belt Protestant Judges, credibly accused of fondling and inappropriate touching of young teenage women.

I have no problem with examining the records. I want transparency but in PA, the AG is pushing for a law to change the statute of limitations for only the Catholic Church.

Now I agree there are two camps in the Church, the social justice who see feminism (women’s priest; abortion) and homosexuality as issues that need to be changed. I do believe there is a Lavender Mafia in many Big City Catholic Dioceses, from the Bishop on down. There are Bishops that are entirely orthodox. So there are Catholic leaders wanting to water down the moral sexual teachings. I agree, and that includes a segment of those in Rome.


17 posted on 09/14/2018 9:58:08 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564
No it is not. Rape is Rape, Inappropriate touching is something else. Both are wrong, but one is far more serious. Inappropriate touching is not rape. The overwhelming majority of these cases do no involve rape. Most involve fondling, groping, another group involves sexual acts that do not involve carnal relations, to put it nicely. Forcible rape, No, not true.

Well, I for one am very pleased that your priesthood is better than reported!

Eskimos have something like 40 words for snow. Rome apparently has 40 words for sexual abuse.

Where was moral outrage in the state of Alabama, which is a super majority Bible Belt Protestant State in which Judge Roy Moore, credibly accused with groping and inappropriate touching of several 14-16 year old teenage women. He received the majority of the white Bible Belt Protestant vote. The argument was he repented, did not rape anybody, yada, yada, yada,

I do not believe he was credibly accused.

I note you have reverted to Roman Argument #2: Others do it too!!!

Just call what happened evil and move on. No need to justify or rationalize.

I have no problem with examining the records. I want transparency but in PA, the AG is pushing for a law to change the statute of limitations for only the Catholic Church.

They are the only organization that acted like a criminal organization.

There are Bishops that are entirely orthodox. So there are Catholic leaders wanting to water down the moral sexual teachings. I agree, and that includes a segment of those in Rome.

This remains to be seen - how many are non-gay, orthodox, none colluders in this scandal. We have yet to have full disclosure.

I say, expose it all and build from the ashes.

19 posted on 09/14/2018 10:56:09 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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