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Pedophilia Isnít The Main Problem With Catholic Priests, Homosexuality Is
http://thefederalist.com ^ | September 28, 2018 | Maureen Mullarkey

Posted on 10/11/2018 8:58:28 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

The editorial board of the New York Times declared it had identified the source of “The Catholic Church’s Unholy Stain.” It names pedophilia and asks: “How have so many pedophiles been allowed into the priesthood?”

The question was purely rhetorical because the board had an answer ready. It cited the usual grounds: “the all-male priesthood and the celibacy imposed on Catholic priests; the elitism, careerism and clericalism of the church hierarchy; the lack of transparency or accountability among bishops.” Most damning is “the power a man of God has over a child.”

Every parent knows instinctively that sexual abuse of the young and vulnerable is an evil that cries out for punishment, swift and severe. Anything less mocks the harm done by abusive priests. Equally inadequate—and blameworthy—are expressions of sympathy for the abused that disguise the elephant in the rectory. The first responsibility is to call things by their right name.

Ignoring the Issue Will Prevent Addressing It

To casual readers, duly angered, the Times’ charge sounds about right. More thoughtful ones, however, will hesitate over the word pedophilia. With few exceptions, sexual abuse by priests has been visited overwhelmingly upon pubescent boys, and young men, most often teenagers. This is pederasty, not pedophilia. And pederasty is endemic to gay culture. (For an unsparing indictment of that culture by a gay man, read Jason Hill’s “Loveless, Narcissistic Sex Addicts” in The Federalist.)

Without intending to, the Times’ studied determination to ignore homosexual predation as the culprit parallels the Catholic Church’s dilemma. How is the hierarchy to work at “restoring trust, instituting accountability, and eradicating the cancer of sexual abuse” without acknowledging a subject inoculated from judgment by reigning opinion?

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Inadequate—and blameworthy—are expressions of sympathy for the abused that disguise the elephant in the rectory. The first responsibility is to call things by their right name.

“Homosexuality has been normalized, officially approved, ratified, and okayed. Since the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from the roster of mental disorders in 1973, activists have parlayed homosexuals into a protected species, more like black rhinos or orangutans than moral beings. The church’s ancient description of homosexuality as an “objective disorder” is dismissed as the last gasp of the 19th-century Society for the Suppression of Vice.”

1 posted on 10/11/2018 8:58:28 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

They created a profession where the only person who would be WILLING to undertake it is someone with no desire to marry a woman in the first place. That’s already selecting in people with non-traditional sexual preferences. That includes homosexuals and it also includes pedophiles. Because the church’s structure has choirboys, and not choirgirls acting as assistants in church services the assaults have been more heavily by same-sex pedophiles, but it’s certainly not unheard of, in Catholic schools and orphanages and other such settings for male Catholic priests, and also female officials like nuns, to prey sexually on little girls as well.

The problem is the so-called celibacy requirement that selects in people with hidden sexual issues. It happens in other faiths, but clearly it’s worse in Catholicism.


2 posted on 10/11/2018 9:04:25 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: NKP_Vet

The New York Times knows all about pedophiles since the majority of their ranks are homosexuals.

There is a reason why they are called the Homosexual Times.


3 posted on 10/11/2018 9:04:27 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: NKP_Vet

The main problem is that they are Evil.


4 posted on 10/11/2018 9:04:32 AM PDT by chris37
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To: NKP_Vet

Pederasty faggotry, and pedophile faggotry.. yeah, totally different. /s

If that’s you’re defense, that’s pretty thin.


5 posted on 10/11/2018 9:05:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: NKP_Vet

Homosexuality is the gateway mental disorder to Pedophelia.


6 posted on 10/11/2018 9:06:41 AM PDT by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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To: NKP_Vet

It’s probably true, but if you tolerate homosexuality, increased tolerance of pedophilia goes along with it. You are lowering the bar and all sorts of perversions will try to slip past along with the homos, who tend to sympathize with them.


7 posted on 10/11/2018 9:07:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NKP_Vet
So much for following the Heavenly Creator. HIs WORD is what counts for eternity. There are numerous woes described, when the children make up their own traditions, regardless of denominations. Some things simply are not tolerated in the name of Christ.
8 posted on 10/11/2018 9:07:42 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: NKP_Vet

A homosexual cabal inside the church that gains power by blackmailing each other for political power within the Vatican....

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG????


9 posted on 10/11/2018 9:14:47 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Admin Moderator

Edit: This posting is a CATHOLIC CAUCUS. I forgot to put the designation on the title.


10 posted on 10/11/2018 9:14:52 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness¬Ē)
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To: NKP_Vet
Not all pedophiles are homosexuals, but
All homosexuals are pedophiles.
11 posted on 10/11/2018 9:16:30 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: DesertRhino

Pederasty and pedophilia are two different things with the same solution that involves a rope and a six foot drop.


12 posted on 10/11/2018 9:17:42 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Which of the following is true?:

* All Homosexuals are pedophiles

* Some Homosexuals are pedophiles

* All pedophiles are homosexuals

* Some pedophiles are homosexuals


13 posted on 10/11/2018 9:18:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: NKP_Vet; Admin Moderator

I object to classing this as a restricted post AFTER THE FACT.

Thank you,

Megan


14 posted on 10/11/2018 9:19:24 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: babble-on
So many things you have wrong...

They created a profession where the only person who would be WILLING to undertake it is someone with no desire to marry a woman in the first place.

Not true, especially today. Many of the men who are ordained today enter seminary late enough that they have had some opportunity to date (at least in high school); some have been engaged and broken off the engagement to enter seminary, and even a few are widowers.

The problem is the so-called celibacy requirement that selects in people with hidden sexual issues. It happens in other faiths, but clearly it’s worse in Catholicism.

Also not true. Part of the admissions process to the seminary program is a psychological evaluation. If there are "hidden sexual issues", they should come to light there or during the time of formation (at least 4 years, but often 6, 8, or more depending on the program).

To be fair, this was not always the case... but it's one of the reasons that we see a sharp drop-off in incidents of pedophiliac/ephebophiliac abuse by priests starting even before the scandal broke in Boston in 2002.

(As an aside, your claim about "availability" being the reason for more same-sex pedophile incidents is the same argument used by the "it's not about homosexuality" camp.)

15 posted on 10/11/2018 9:19:56 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some pedophiles only target under age females.

That’s a truer statement than the four listed here.

I wish the homosexual movement came out strong against pedophilia. They should be at the front of the charge on this, but they aren’t, which speaks volumes.


16 posted on 10/11/2018 9:21:26 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: babble-on

No. It is much worse in Islam than in Catholicism.
Other than that, you have a valid point.

However, vigilance and harsh punishment for offenders used to be practiced by the Catholic church and held this problem at bay. A general permissiveness included permissiveness of sexual sins and brought this crisis on.


17 posted on 10/11/2018 9:23:38 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: MeganC

Exactly right.


18 posted on 10/11/2018 9:25:28 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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The church’s ancient description of homosexuality as an “objective disorder” is dismissed as the last gasp of the 19th-century Society for the Suppression of Vice.”

Before the APA was besieged by homosexuals it was SSAD, Same Sex Attraction Disorder, wasn't it?

19 posted on 10/11/2018 9:35:03 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: NKP_Vet
A book that has an incredible wealth of knowledge on this subject is by Randy Engel, the Rite of Sodomy. Our church is Dominican, and one thing I like about them is how scholarly they are - you listen to these super learned guys talk and they seem so intellectually driven that you buy that maybe they were not in fact drawn to the priesthood as a place to "hide out" or whatever.

Her work on the early history of homosexuality in Greece & Rome is an eye opener - it leaves little room for doubt that in those times, the idea of 2 adult men together was considered an abomination - the very concept of homosexual acts was synonymous with pederasty, or a youth and an older man. This modern notion that people "ARE" homosexual, as their identity - is quite modern - and seems to have emerged with English writers in the last couple of hundred years.

I hadn't given homosexuality much thought until recent years - all of the news, plus the gay rights movement. There is no doubt that this has been one of the most successful marketing plans ever - a fringe group that has been able to convince the average American that they are a protected class of person rather than persons engaging in a certain behavior - and that the basis of their movement is in fact GOOD for society rather than utterly destructive. Most Americans don't even know what the word pederasty means. And until you understand pederasty, you can't begin to understand what this movement really seeks.

A recent article said that some 23% of the incoming kids at Yale & Harvard did NOT identify as heterosexual. Think about that! This is mind bogggling and ludicrous at the same time. The marketing of the homosexual agenda has reached an absolute frenzy, where they've convinced huge numbers of young kids that it's cooler to be gay/trans/bi whatever - and that being "normal" is outdated and unfashionable. It's also patently obvious that 23% of these kids were not "born" gay - striking at the heart of the protected class of citizen argument.

20 posted on 10/11/2018 9:35:22 AM PDT by nerdgirl
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