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Young Catholics urge Vatican to issue inclusive LGBT message
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 21, 2018 6:38 AM EDT | Nicole Winfield

Posted on 10/21/2018 5:32:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Catholic bishops are entering their final week of debate over hot-button issues facing young Catholics, including how the church should welcome gays and respond to the clerical sex abuse scandal that has discredited many in the church hierarchy.

The month-long synod of bishops ends next Saturday with the adoption by the 260-plus cardinals, bishops and priests of a final document and approval of a separate, shorter letter to the world’s Catholic youth.

Some of the youth delegates to the meeting have insisted that the final document express an inclusive message to make LGBT Catholics feel welcome in a church that has often shunned them.

The Vatican took a step in that direction by making a reference to “LGBT” for the first time in its preparatory document heading into the meeting.

But some bishops have balked at the notion, including Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput, who insisted in his speech that “there is no such thing as an ‘LGBTQ Catholic’ or a ‘transgender Catholic’ or a ‘heterosexual Catholic,’ as if our sexual appetites defined who we are.” …

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: francischurch; homosexualagenda; sexabuse; youthdelegates
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1 posted on 10/21/2018 5:32:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The Soviet Communists used to organize phony “Youth” groups of all sorts for propaganda purposes. The deviant homosexuals, who have a death grip on the Catholic Church, are using the same tactic.


2 posted on 10/21/2018 5:41:58 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: Olog-hai
Title says "young Catholics".

How deceptive.

Article says "some youth delegates".

During my time on earth I've found the "youth" to be unwise, gullible and quite stupid.

The clerical sexual abuse scandal occured because the Church WAS welcoming to homosexuals.

3 posted on 10/21/2018 5:52:02 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Olog-hai

This is a non sequentor for a true believer in the redemption given by the blood of Christ. Lgbt people should be welcomed into the church, but their deviant life style should not. In other words, if you continue to commit mortal sin, then You arent a follower of Christ and you have no business isisting on being a church member.


4 posted on 10/21/2018 5:53:36 AM PDT by Ikeon (The surest way to end poverty is to make it as uncomfortable as possible.- Ben Franklin)
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To: Olog-hai

The phony pope has already made the church gay. Search for the picture of him with a rainbow cross. Remember “God made you gay.”


5 posted on 10/21/2018 6:22:19 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The country is suffering from a hysterical obsession with race, skin color and national origin.)
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To: Eagles6
The clerical sexual abuse scandal occured because the Church WAS welcoming to homosexuals.

It appears to be so.

It is a tactic of the Left to define and divide people by as many characteristics as possible, to exacerbate identity politics so as to more easily control populations.

As I recall, hate the sin, love the sinner has been a Christian motto for some time.

The idea that sexual proclivities can not be controlled is a fairly new one.

6 posted on 10/21/2018 6:24:18 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

True.


7 posted on 10/21/2018 6:29:11 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Olog-hai
Christ gave us all the "inclusive language" needed:

"Repent, and sin no more."

Embracing a life of sin is an anathema.

8 posted on 10/21/2018 6:33:52 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Ikeon

Exactly!


9 posted on 10/21/2018 6:36:29 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Olog-hai

Why do they get to be special?

I want to be included, too!!

Oh, wait there is just nothing “special” about me....I don’t identify by any particular letters of the alphabet....


10 posted on 10/21/2018 6:36:31 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Ikeon

So you’re saying Christ has a concord with Belial in some way?

There’s a reason why Titus 3:10 is in the Bible.


11 posted on 10/21/2018 6:42:33 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

L Liberty
G God
B Bible
T Trump


12 posted on 10/21/2018 7:02:01 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Olog-hai

Oh yeah, these brats want “inclusion.” They’d have probably joined in driving me out of the Church had they been around. They don’t care how anybody feels in the Catholic Church other than homosexuals.


13 posted on 10/21/2018 7:07:17 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Conservatism" without G-d is just another form of Communism.)
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To: Olog-hai

Why do they need a special message of inclusion to a Church that says all are welcome? The Church will never condone the sins people commit, but none are turned away from entering.


14 posted on 10/21/2018 7:12:19 AM PDT by al_c (https://conventionofstates.com)
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To: al_c
Exactly.

They want the "inclusion" of defining their sins as not sins.

15 posted on 10/21/2018 7:27:50 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Olog-hai

Not surprised. Some of these young people KNOW that for the gay mafia, it’s time up for them.


16 posted on 10/21/2018 9:15:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: al_c
The Church will never condone the sins people commit, but none are turned away from entering.

Wrong.

"But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person." 1 Cor 5:11

The purpose of a church service is the gathering of believers to worship Christ. The purpose of a church is not to allow the unrepentant to attend until they convert believers to accept their sin.

17 posted on 10/21/2018 9:20:54 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . ")
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To: Olog-hai
I've been saying two things for awhile, but nobody wants to believe it.

One: The homosexual/pedophile mafia, which has taken over the church, will at some point in the near future tell the flock accept homosexuality as normal and will open up the church to homosexuals, up to and including, homosexual "marriage". That means full communion rights. The Episcopalians and Anglicans are already there. It has been my opinion for some time now that the catholic church isn't far behind.

Two: Today's children are being brainwashed in the school system that homosexuality is normal. That includes catholic children. This process has been going on for decades now. It's just a matter of time before younger catholics push the church into being more accepting of homosexuals. The homosexual/pedophile mafia will be more than happy to accede.

The catholic church has been corrupt and mired in scandal for 2000 years now. I know many catholics can't accept that and don't want to believe it. But here is your reality. There is nothing you can do that will prevent the homosexual/pedophile mafia from implementing its agenda. Nothing. Your choices are to accept what's coming or leave the church. There are no other options. There will be no cleaning house. There will be no reformer to fix the problems. You can pray all you want. I'm sure the Episcopalians and Anglicans also prayed. It won't do any good. Your church is becoming to religion what the Democratic Party has become to politics. Sane rational people will have no place there and their only option is to leave.

18 posted on 10/21/2018 10:18:34 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Eagles6

“During my time on earth I’ve found the “youth” to be unwise, gullible and quite stupid.”

Even with “Three Score and fourteen years” on the ranch, I’m still at times unwise and gullible. Being half-smart on a good day, I have improved a bit.
All that said, it occurs to me that, contrary to our innate knowledge, some of us want an authority figure, whether parent-boss-priest, to say of any given behavior or habit “it’s all right, go ahead and do X-Y-Z.”
So at some unknown point in time, perhaps a presumably benevolent churchman said “it’s OK” and in so doing, cracked open a can of worms.


19 posted on 10/21/2018 10:42:33 AM PDT by Huaynero
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To: Olog-hai

I think theres been a miscommunication on my part. Christ accepts all sinners who repent. LGBT, doesn’t mean they have to live the lifestyle.


20 posted on 10/21/2018 11:24:30 AM PDT by Ikeon (The surest way to end poverty is to make it as uncomfortable as possible.- Ben Franklin)
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