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U.S. Catholics losing trust in clergy, survey finds
Catholic Herald ^ | January 11, 2019 | CNA

Posted on 01/12/2019 8:27:41 AM PST by ebb tide

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To: PeterPrinciple

Jesus didn’t rely on anything.

He is God.


21 posted on 01/12/2019 10:34:48 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Yeah, pencil me in. The clergy have seemed like Democrats to me for years. They tell us now, from the pulpit, that God wants us to be “good” stewards of the planet. Define good...and WHO gets to do that. Seems to me any good Christian WOULD be a good steward. He wouldn’t waste, he wouldn’t poison. ..


22 posted on 01/12/2019 10:37:44 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: ebb tide

False argument.

Nor have I mentioned Sola Scriptura, but only that salvation is in Christ alone.

I’m grateful He died that we might be saved and to know we have eternal life with Him.


23 posted on 01/12/2019 11:02:56 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Nor have I mentioned Sola Scriptura

You sure did:

Never in Scripture.

24 posted on 01/12/2019 11:08:50 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Church is stuck: Can not get rid of gay priests because not enough priests to begin with and fear of appearing homophobic. Can not change teaching on homosexuality because too many laity would leave.

Gay priests will keep acting out sexually. Not rare for a gay man to have over 1000 sexual partners during his lifetime. Thus, continued scandal and erosion of image of priests.


25 posted on 01/12/2019 11:35:18 AM PST by BusterDog
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To: ebb tide
You sure did: Never in Scripture.

Scripture is true or it is not.
Scripture either changes or is fixed.
Scripture is either inspired by the Holy Spirit or it is not.
When God says something in Scripture, it is either reliable or false.

I believe Scripture is true, fixed, inspired, and reliable.

Scripture says salvation is in Christ.

26 posted on 01/12/2019 11:45:32 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: PGR88

What the bureaucracy of the Catholic Church has done to fail those of faith who it is supposed to serve is just another example of the tendency for all bureaucracies to trend to corruption and focus on perpetuation of themselves rather than service.


27 posted on 01/12/2019 11:55:39 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: PeterPrinciple

Jesus had no Scripture. The word of God was spread mouth to mouth — person to person — Holy Tradition.


28 posted on 01/12/2019 12:09:03 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I believe Scripture is true, fixed, inspired, and reliable.

Then why did Luther toss out entire books of scripture and edit others that did not agree with his sinful life?

29 posted on 01/12/2019 1:21:01 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Salvation; PeterPrinciple

Jesus didn’t need scripture. John 1:1


30 posted on 01/12/2019 1:26:00 PM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Salvation
Jesus had Scripture--the Law and the Prophets. See Luke 4.16-21 where he reads from the prophet Isaiah in the synagogue at Nazareth, and Luke 24.27, where he interprets the passages in Moses and all the prophets about himself to the disciples on the road to Emmaus.

Of course it was not until decades later that some of the Christian message began to be put down in writing by St. Paul and by the authors of the gospels.

31 posted on 01/12/2019 1:28:24 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

You’re right about the Old Testament. The poster was talking about the New Testament — at least that’s how I took it.


32 posted on 01/12/2019 1:34:19 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marajade

Then why did he repeated quote the Old Testament?


33 posted on 01/12/2019 1:36:40 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Oops Then why did he repeatededly quote the Old Testament?
34 posted on 01/12/2019 1:38:07 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

So they would know that he was the one who was to fulfill it.


35 posted on 01/12/2019 1:38:20 PM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: ebb tide; MHGinTN; imardmd1; Mom MD; boatbums; Luircin; metmom; Elsie; ealgeone; daniel1212
Then why did Luther toss out entire books of scripture and edit others that did not agree with his sinful life?

That doesn't sound true, but you should take it up with Luther.

I believe the Scriptures are true, fixed, inspired, and totally reliable - containing all necessary for salvation and Christian maturity, as they state.

Sometimes, I see someone totally fixed on everything - like Luther or whatever - instead of what God actually inspired.

It puzzles me, when they could shift focus and learn what is True and how to have eternal life in His presence.

36 posted on 01/12/2019 2:29:26 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

As usual, when in trouble, call your posse.


37 posted on 01/12/2019 2:50:02 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

You are delusional ... as usual.


38 posted on 01/12/2019 2:59:07 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Oops! I should have said a paranoid delusional.


39 posted on 01/12/2019 2:59:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ebb tide
As usual, when in trouble, call your posse.

1. I did not think there was any trouble at all. I simply answered your questions.

2. I pinged people who I believe would very much like to see the discussion. That is why you can ping FReepers.

best.

40 posted on 01/12/2019 3:01:22 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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