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To: metmom
No,---if by "it" being an indictment you mean St. Peter Damien's words of condemnation being an indictment in the present day --- it is not an indictment of the Church as such, but of sinners.

Go back 20, 30 or 30 centuries and see this pattern repeatedly. History does not repeat, but it rhymes.

Your church, whatever it is, probably doesn't go back a couple of millennia; or doesn't keep its chronicles.

I you are a member of the Body, you will be in sorrow when we the Church are hurt, and rejoice when we rejoice.

3 posted on 02/21/2019 9:09:46 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

No, not his words of condemnation.

The situation that led to the words.

That nothing has changed in Catholicism over the last 1,000 years that warrants those words is a real indictment of Catholicism.


4 posted on 02/21/2019 9:32:46 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Catholicism is reaping what it sowed.

The body of Christ is clearly not Catholicism even while there may actually be some in it who are true believers.

Your demands of my behavior and attitude are not binding and I accept no judgment of my Christianity just because I don’t do what someone else thinks I should.


5 posted on 02/21/2019 9:35:43 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom
I am reminded of the Farmers' Insurance commercials:

"We know a thing or two, because we've seen a thing or two."

Perhaps when other ecclesial communities have been around for almost two millennia, they too will know a thing or two on account of having seen a thing or two.

6 posted on 02/21/2019 9:42:23 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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