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Co-Founder of String Theory and Physicist, Michio Kaku believes in God, if not that God
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Posted on 03/01/2019 9:44:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Co-founder of string field theory and physicist Michio Kaku made waves last year — or at least seemed to — when it was reported that he’d proven the existence of God. The Geophilosophical Association of Anthropological and Cultural Studies quoted Kaku as saying, "I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence. To me, it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance."


Reacting to that public comment, Kaku said: "That’s one of the drawbacks of being in a public sphere: Sometimes you get quoted incorrectly. My own point of view is that you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God."

"Science is based on what is testable, reproducible, and falsifiable," Kaku says. "That’s called 'science.' However, there are certain things that are not testable, not reproducible, and not falsifiable. And that would include the existence of God." He's noted that discerning whether you live in a Matrix-style construct or not would be another such 'non-falsifiable' problem.

Part of the problem, of course, is that "God" has different meanings to different people, and in discussing It/Him/Her, there’s apt to be confusion. And yet believers continue to ask scientists this question, perhaps seeking scientific confirmation for their faith. They want to know if Kaku’s an atheist, but when we can’t agree on what God is, “atheist” has even less meaning.

In any event, when asked about God, Kaku is likely to quote Einstein’s suggestion that there are two types of god: “One god is a personal god, the god that you pray to, the god that smites the Philistines, the god that walks on water. That’s the first god. But there’s another god, and that’s the god of Spinoza. That’s the god of beauty, harmony, simplicity.”

It’s that second “God” to which Kaku is drawn. He tells innovation tech today that the universe could have been random, but that instead “Our universe is rich; it is beautiful, elegant.”

He’s stuck by what he sees as its exquisite simplicity, pointing out that all of the laws of physics could fit on a single sheet of paper, and, “In fact, what I do for a living is to try to get that sheet of paper and summarize it into an equation one inch long.” He asserts that with his string field theory, he had that one-inch explanation of everything, but that with new developments in membrane theory, he needs a little more room. For now.

Still, Kaku says, this will happen. Physics is the opposite of most other fields of study, he says: With every new advance it gets simpler, and in that lies his sense of wonder. “So, that’s the God of Einstein. The God of beauty, [the idea] that says that the universe is simpler the more we study it.”

Kaku recounts:

"When scientists use the word God, they usually mean the God of Order. For example, one of the most important revelations in Einstein’s early childhood took place when he read his first books on science. He immediately realized that most of what he had been taught about religion could not possibly be true. Throughout his career, however, he clung to the belief that a mysterious, divine Order existed in the universe."

That other kind of God clearly has less appeal for Kaku, as it generally does for physicists and other scientists, including Neil DeGrasse Tyson, who says that believers he talks to tell him that God is all-powerful and good, but when he looks at ”all the ways Earth wants to kill us,” he just doesn’t see how both could be true.

So when Kaku asserts that the goal of string field theory is to “read the mind of God,” it’s important to remember he’s talking about Einstein’s God of Order. To “read the mind of God” would be to find that (one-inch) equation that explains everything in the cosmos. Bearing in mind the continual game of leapfrog going on between math and physics, and that the latest leap is physics' string theory, which requires a new type of math, Kaku mischievously suggests that the ultimate solution to the schism between physicists and mathematicians could be that God is a mathematician. And, he says, the mind of God — the explanation of Order — may turn out to be string field theory’s “cosmic music,” the resonating of strings through 11-dimensional hyperspace.

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TOPICS: Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: creation; god; intelligentdesign; michiokaku; physics; stringtheory
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1 posted on 03/01/2019 9:44:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Thats some little dance he’s doing there.


2 posted on 03/01/2019 9:47:32 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

3 posted on 03/01/2019 9:47:52 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who is this guy? Why is he so prominent? I've listened to him a time or two, and he seems completely fake to me. Is he a scientist of some sort? What has he ever accomplished that is real?

He seems to me to be the science equivalent of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

4 posted on 03/01/2019 9:49:17 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmarked


5 posted on 03/01/2019 9:51:50 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Secret Agent Man
Thats some little dance he’s doing there.

How so? He laid out his position quite clearly.

6 posted on 03/01/2019 9:51:55 AM PST by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.”)
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To: SeekAndFind

There's no such thing as an atheist.

Anyone who says so - are in conscious or unconscious denial.

7 posted on 03/01/2019 9:53:46 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We Christians get all excited over the reasoned arguments for Intelligent Design. We should curb our enthusiasm a bit, for proof of the existence of an Intelligent Designer does not also demonstrate the existence of the God of our Hebrew Bible.

Our Christian and Hebrew God did much more than design the universe intelligently. He spoke to Abraham, chose the Jews, made the sun stop one afternoon, played games with Pharoah, let Satan toy with Job, sent Jesus to earth, and so on. Intelligent Design touches none of these particular and fundamental things.


8 posted on 03/01/2019 9:53:47 AM PST by mbarker12474
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To: Secret Agent Man
This book of his was fascinating...



While attending Cubberley High School in Palo Alto, Kaku assembled a particle accelerator in his parents' garage for a science fair project.[citation needed] His admitted goal was to generate "a beam of gamma rays powerful enough to create antimatter." At the National Science Fair in Albuquerque, New Mexico, he attracted the attention of physicist Edward Teller, who took Kaku as a protégé, awarding him the Hertz Engineering Scholarship.

Kaku graduated summa cum laude from Harvard University in 1968 and was first in his physics class.

He attended the Berkeley Radiation Laboratory at the University of California, Berkeley, and received a Ph.D. in 1972, and that same year held a lectureship at Princeton University.

As part of the research program in 1975 and 1977 at the department of physics at The City College of The City University of New York, Kaku worked on research on quantum mechanics.

He was a Visitor and Member (1973 and 1990) at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton and New York University. He currently holds the Henry Semat Chair and Professorship in theoretical physics at the City College of New York.

Kaku has had more than 70 articles published in physics journals such as Physical Review, covering topics such as superstring theory, supergravity, supersymmetry, and hadronic physics. In 1974, Kaku and Prof. Keiji Kikkawa of Osaka University co-authored the first papers describing string theory in a field form
9 posted on 03/01/2019 9:53:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: fishtank

(they) are...

(anyone) is....


10 posted on 03/01/2019 9:54:27 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Yo-Yo

LOL


11 posted on 03/01/2019 9:55:49 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: SeekAndFind

12 posted on 03/01/2019 9:57:00 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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13 posted on 03/01/2019 9:57:40 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Steely Tom

Exactly the opposite. Third generation Japanese American and not a leftist puke like most of the TV scientists. Great books and lectures, good mind and honest as to what he does not know.

I have a couple of scientists in my family, they all like him.


14 posted on 03/01/2019 9:58:36 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sheldon Glashow has expressed skepticism concerning string theory, pointing out that it can't be tested in the laboratory.

It's a theoretical utopia that you either believe in or you don't. Like "socialism will work when the right people implement it."

15 posted on 03/01/2019 9:59:21 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: SeekAndFind

“My own point of view is that you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.”

Can’t really argue with that point. It’s interesting though in itself that that should be the case.


16 posted on 03/01/2019 10:00:01 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: KC Burke
I have a couple of scientists in my family, they all like him.

I've a couple of scientists in my family too, and they ignore him.

17 posted on 03/01/2019 10:00:31 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Steely Tom
Who is this guy? Why is he so prominent? I've listened to him a time or two, and he seems completely fake to me. Is he a scientist of some sort? What has he ever accomplished that is real?

As per Wikipedia:

As part of the research program in 1975 and 1977 at the department of physics at The City College of The City University of New York, Kaku worked on research on quantum mechanics. He was a Visitor and Member (1973 and 1990) at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton and New York University. He currently holds the Henry Semat Chair and Professorship in theoretical physics at the City College of New York.

Kaku has had more than 70 articles published in physics journals such as Physical Review, covering topics such as superstring theory, supergravity, supersymmetry, and hadronic physics. In 1974, Kaku and Prof. Keiji Kikkawa of Osaka University co-authored the first papers describing string theory in a field form.

Kaku is the author of several textbooks on string theory and quantum field theory.

I’d say this certainly qualifies him to be called a “real” scientist… Wouldn’t you agree?

18 posted on 03/01/2019 10:00:39 AM PST by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.”)
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To: Simon Green

He says its clear god exists, a universal intelligence. Then he says you cant prove or disprove god. If its clear because of the rules and harmony a universal intellgence (his way of saying god) exists, then his later equivocation is wrong. He bases his conclusion god exists on evidence of rules and laws and harmony, then says cant prove or,disprove. His own belief is evidence based, so hes proved it.

Hes trying to backtrack.


19 posted on 03/01/2019 10:01:18 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Secret Agent Man: Thats some little dance he’s doing there. Simon Green: How so? He laid out his position quite clearly.

My Kaku translation: My science tells me God undeniably exists, but my reputation in my science clique says I can't say what I see with my own eyes.

God of Order? Is that the best he's got? I'm not religious enough to be an atheist.

20 posted on 03/01/2019 10:02:46 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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