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Why Churches Should NOT Take The PPP Loan From The Government!
Dave Ramsey ^ | 04/14/2020 | Dave Ramsey

Posted on 04/15/2020 11:11:02 AM PDT by tbw2

Why Churches Should NOT Take The PPP Loan From The Government! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NhKH91nvJg


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bailout; coronavirus; ppp

1 posted on 04/15/2020 11:11:02 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Why Churches Should NOT Take The PPP Loan From The Government!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NhKH91nvJg


2 posted on 04/15/2020 11:11:08 AM PDT by tbw2
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I so totally agree that churches need to stay out of that secular yoke.


3 posted on 04/15/2020 11:34:52 AM PDT by Migraine
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Do churches not pay payroll taxes? Unemployment insurance? Withhold income taxes, etc?

Why yes. Yes they do.

And since they do, they are just as entitled to PPP as any other business.


4 posted on 04/15/2020 11:58:39 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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Churches should not be 503c, 504x, whatever, either, same reason.


5 posted on 04/15/2020 12:27:07 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Responsibility2nd

Like it says in Romans 14, I’m fairly certain that if a church goes PPP they are doing it as unto the Lord; and if they eschew PPP they also are refraining from it as unto the Lord. The clincher in that passage is: “Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind”, i.e. don’t judge or shame one another over these matters extraneous to the core of the Gospel.

I’m agreeing with Ramsey that there is a potential can of worms that could emerge if and when courts say “You took the Government’s money, now live by their social justice rules.”


6 posted on 04/15/2020 12:40:42 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: tbw2

Positive Personal Palpitations?

Primarily Punctual Punditry?

Producing Pulsating Pustules?


7 posted on 04/15/2020 1:02:28 PM PDT by moovova
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Ewww on Pulsating Pustules.


8 posted on 04/15/2020 2:12:44 PM PDT by freepertoo
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PPP - Paycheck Protection Program

It is the “free money from the government” is you meet all the conditions to get the loan forgiven. Most won’t, and we can be sure of that since the federal student loan forgiveness program has a 99% rejection rate.


9 posted on 04/15/2020 3:16:15 PM PDT by tbw2
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Ok...thanks. I should’ve known that.


10 posted on 04/15/2020 4:03:36 PM PDT by moovova
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DeVos has been deliberately sabotaging loan forgiveness. I don’t think banks will for PPP. The requirements seem pretty easy to meet if you’ve seen the forms - spend it on payroll and don’t reduce your avg headcount.


11 posted on 04/15/2020 4:25:32 PM PDT by socalgop
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To: Migraine
I’m agreeing with Ramsey that there is a potential can of worms that could emerge if and when courts say “You took the Government’s money, now live by their social justice rules.”

This is EXACTLY why my church did not choose to be a 501(c)3 when we formed 3 years ago! We have never had a problem with anyone not donating because their donation isn't tax-deductible.

12 posted on 04/17/2020 1:41:12 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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Since my house is paid for, I always take the standard deduction rather than itemizing. Thus, the tax deductability of donations is here to me.


13 posted on 04/17/2020 1:46:54 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I have often asked our people if they’d change their giving pattern if the deductibility were withdrawn. Maybe they were virtue-signaling; but they all said there’d be no change. The same goes for me.


14 posted on 04/17/2020 4:24:38 PM PDT by Migraine
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