Posted on 05/24/2020 3:30:40 PM PDT by ebb tide
Donald Trump wants to open up churches more than some church leaders do. No sooner had he proposed that churches be deemed “essential” services than some church leaders began criticizing him. At CNN, Father Edward Beck quickly penned a column saying “Mr. President, we don’t need to open churches to practice our faith.”
Beck argues:
No one is prohibiting the free exercise of religion. Though we are in the teeth of a pandemic, in which a very dangerous coronavirus can be transmitted by, among other things, close physical proximity, people can and do continue to worship, albeit in temporarily altered circumstances and in novel ways. To use the “freedom of religion” argument to demand carte blanche the opening of religious venues is to proffer a fallacious argument that can potentially lead to physical harm and, in the worst case, death.
Such statements by religious figures are music to the ears of secularists, who have used this crisis as an opportunity to mistreat the religious. The secularists have used the submissiveness of the hierarchy against the faithful, saying to them in effect: If your leaders don’t object to the closing of churches, why should you?
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A fellow congregant, the wife of a lay leader, from my church appointed to check on me (along with others) called me to day. As we chatted about when we would reopen for live worship, I let her know how disappointed I was with the stance of the United Methodist Church’s Virginia Conference—because they are being even more reticent than our slughead governor. In other states with other denominations, the church leaders are fighting for the faith. But the UMC, at least its Virginia Conference, is showing me that they are in step with the Democrat-Media Complex.
I have no words for ministers who want their church to be shut down by the government.
Secularism is the ONLY reason this faux pandemic is even a thing. In times past people did not value their skin over their freedom. But this bunch of fat, lazy, intellectually bereft underworked, oversexed, marginally thoughtful dolts wilt in fear at the very mention of death. I can tell you this. My grandfather would have burned down the capital building before he would submit to this stupidity. All these freedom loving sheeple who would rather get a government check instead of go to work and accept a teeny, tiny itty bitty nothing risk of perhaps dying but probably catching the covid cold and never even knowing they have it. Pfffffffft. I have no idea why they bothered to conquer the Japanese Empire and the Third Reich so these little snowflakes could carry on the legacy left to us. Sad.
There will be no Sunday masses at St. Patrick’s Cathedral or any churches throughout the archdiocese in the immediate future. as Cardinal Timothy Dolan walks through a political minefield of what President Trump wants versus what Gov. Cuomo wants.
Many people are weak...weak in practice and weak in principle . I am glad I am older so I won’t have to see this collapse of freedom, the embrace of fear...and acceptance of general nitwittery as a way of life. Pathetic .
Any church that doesn’t want to open can stay closed, right? Any church that wants to open can impose whatever safety measures they want, right?
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...“
What’s so difficult to understand?
Leaders can request people stay home. They can recommend social distancing and mask wear, but they have no authority to prevent churches from opening. Even if one believes government can override the Bill of Rights in very well defined and limited situations, like during emergencies, one cannot unequally apply the law. If it’s OK for people to congregate in grocery stores, it’s OK for them to congregate in church.
Ask actual Christian churches. Go to the Pentecostal, or Baptists especially in the minority areas. They will break down doors to go to worship.
Cardinal Dolan will never be confused with Cardinal O’Connor.
We have, and we will again.
The CDC has reasonable guidelines including social distancing. It is a lie to say Trump’s position is “carte blanche” opening. There shouldn’t be discrimination against religious believers, plus the lockdown was supposed to be to flatten the curve, before the authorities changed the goalposts.
A church I used to attend is very liberal and all in for the Democrat agenda. They fully support the lockdown. I suspect a majority do not really believe in Christ’s divinity.
Want to know the difference between a conservative and a liberal?
The conservative says you can go if you want to.
The liberal says you can’t go because someone might get sick.
“Any church that doesn’t want to open can stay closed, right? Any church that wants to open can impose whatever safety measures they want, right?”
No, President Trump said not only are all churches required to open, but everyone must go to church. I know it’s true because I heard it on CNN. At least that’s what they acted like that’s what he said.
Re open the churches for people want to go back into their church to worship and hear the word.
No one with a gun will force any people to attend any church that is open.
However, cops with guns are now keeping us from attending our closed churches to hear, “Love thy neighbor!”
They trust me to go to Ace, HD, Target, Safeway, Walmart and Costco. Last week I even drove to the car wash and had a vehicle washed and filled with gas.
Yet at 81, I can not be trusted to go to my church for most of my adult life for my spiritual health and well being.
Dead Center (X)
Erm, what happened to worrying about what God wants?
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