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1 posted on 04/05/2010 12:49:59 PM PDT by Presto
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To: Presto

Just put the senator being elected from the states and most of the nonsense that has occurred since direct election of senators would be fixed.

Right now the states have no say at the federal level.


2 posted on 04/05/2010 12:52:22 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Presto

I seem to have missed how you would raise taxes to support a real war.


3 posted on 04/05/2010 12:53:47 PM PDT by Rapscallion (I have a dog in this fight.)
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To: Presto
AMENDMENT 28. Title: Congressional Powers of Taxation Restricted and Revised.....

DREAM ON.

5 posted on 04/05/2010 12:57:00 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Presto
Better idea: A Constitutional Amendment forbidding Congress from exempting itself or any members of their staffs from any law they pass.

Social Security? They're in it.

Obamacare? They're in it.

If we have to live with it, they have to live with it. Watch 90% of their schemes die aborning.

7 posted on 04/05/2010 12:59:46 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Presto

I personally like this. I have always believed that the Fed’s ONLY function is war. It is up to the states to educate and feed the poor.

If welfare and health care were handled on the state and local levels they would be much more effective.


10 posted on 04/05/2010 1:02:28 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Presto

While I dont see it happening I like the idea.


12 posted on 04/05/2010 1:08:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=taxes delayed"))
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To: Presto

As it was and as it should be.

IRS should be two part-time bureaucrats whose job is to cash 64 checks (states + territories) annually. They wouldn’t even need more than two shotguns...


15 posted on 04/05/2010 1:15:33 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: Presto
Congress shall not grant tax exemptions, deductions, or credits to any State except in cases of relief assistance for catastrophe and strain.

Oops. I forsee emergency after emergency. Revise to say 3/4's vote of Congress to declare an emergency and sunset in one year time frame.

16 posted on 04/05/2010 1:27:11 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (There is no such thing as a conservative democrat - Rinse - Repeat)
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To: Presto
The Congress shall not have power to lay and collect income taxes, excise taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, and capitation taxes within the borders of any State...

They would just call it by another name, say, the transfer of money tax, or the "that's a pretty house and you sure wouldn't want anything to happen to it" tax, take the state percentage and charge it to you.

Amendments only worked when words meant something.
18 posted on 04/05/2010 1:50:21 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: Presto

I suppose you think this will be legally ratified. That wasn’t a problem for the people who wanted to subjugate us with the 16th amendment.


21 posted on 04/05/2010 2:01:12 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: Presto; Rapscallion
Apparently, few have read the US Constitution. It already states the Fed can only apportion taxes upon the states, it has no power to directly tax. It was a complete perversion of law and justice that allowed the supposed 16th amendment to play an indirect tax game directly upon the peoples of the states.

Further the US Constitution allows for a special was powers act to fund, well war. This is how the original corporate excise tax of 1913 was created and it lawfully stopped two years later, if not extended and after the war if extensions were made. Instead, after the war, the forces of evil made it an ongoing tax, legislatively. Then extended it from corporations to individuals by further sleight of hand.

This current usurpation of the USConstitution has been ongoing for quite some time. Some of us have been trying to say that to whoever would listen; myself for almost 40 years!

It matters not what laws we pass, what the constitution says, if evil contorts the meanings of what has already been written.

28 posted on 04/05/2010 2:57:10 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Presto

IOW, you want to go back to the failed approach defined by the Articles of Confederation.


31 posted on 04/05/2010 3:04:21 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Presto
except in cases of relief assistance for catastrophe and strain.

No exceptions should be allowed. If there is a catastrophe or 'strain', then the state tax revenues will go down and the fed revenues also. Having Detroit in Michigan is a perpetual 'strain' on the State of Michigan, or a perpetual catastrophe, as you chose. But stupidity or cupidity should not allow escape from taxes. Government charity turns into entitlements, whether it's by handouts or tax abatement. Keep the taxes low, and let the private sector handle charity.

This proposal also needs to include a firm limit on the amount or the rate that government can confiscate. That was a major flaw in the 16th Amendment. We'd be in a lot better shape now if the income tax had been limited to original 3% top rate.

39 posted on 04/05/2010 4:46:52 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Presto

Probably too late, but the dollar should be re-valued 1 for 10 or 1 for ? Then all coinage sdould be gold, silver or copper and possibly nickel. Won’t be painless but if 2-3 other nations do something like this first the U.S. will be in a pickle,,,this would devistate the dollar and the ecconmy. We can’t afford to be also-ran in this area. Think about it.


47 posted on 04/05/2010 5:21:05 PM PDT by Waco (Kalifonia don't need no stenkin oil and no stenkin revenues)
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To: Presto

No damn way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


55 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:26 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Presto
One addition:

Being a creature of the states and by extension, the people, the Federal government may not require the expenditure of any funds by any state, sub-entity of a state, person, or corporation at any time or for any purpose except that it provide the funds for expenditure.

This would completely end unfunded mandates.

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82 posted on 04/07/2010 1:11:26 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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