Posted on 03/19/2020 1:36:19 PM PDT by cowlitzron
The state's temporary limit on size of gatherings violates the First Amendments "Assemble Peaceably" clause. The limit on size of gatherings for religious groups violates the First Amendments "Free Exercise" clause. There is no pandemic exception to the First Amendment in the United State Constitution. People should have the freedom to choose rather or not to go to a gathering. Many of us would rather take risks that make us happy, rather than live sad because many people are scared of COVID-19. We believe that states which do not follow the United States Constitution bring confusion. Not all states have a limitation of the size of gatherings. Overturning state limits would be fair and bring more freedom to all Americans.
during a national emergency the constitution can be suspended. This has already been decided by the supreme court many times.
Not opining at the merits of the petition, but if it’s a first amendment issue shouldn’t it be a petition to the Supreme Court?
Your right to do what makes you happy ends with you depriving others of LIFE.
I love the use of I,we, us in this petition.
The petitioner would be happy to take risks. What about those they would infect who did not sign up for those risks?
The Government has the power to quarantine to protect the general welfare. We may not agree in each case, we might parse things differently but the buck in this case stops with the Government. They have the data we don’t see and they bear the responsibility for outcome.
Luck just meet out of doors like it’s the 1960s !
there’s a whole different requirements from the federales between indoor and outdoor meetings and air quality
The only thing they’re trying to regulate is air quality
State & local health departments have greater jurisdiction than the Feds during a health emergency.
there definitely is a pandemic exception to first amendment rights to assembly, as long as they are restricting mass assembly generally, and not just some kinds of gatherings, it will pass constitutional muster.
why should governors need to hold a plebiscite to implement emergency measures? we are a republic, not a democracy.
Why? I think not getting together is a great idea.
Are speed limits un-Constitutional?
These limits are mostly just suggestions. They aren’t like busting up crowds or anything. Now most venues are enforcing them, so you’ll have a hard time going past it unless you head to a park or something. But if you reaaaaaaaaalllllly want to get in close proximity to hundreds of people, nobody is gonna stop you.
correct.
You assume that these idiots who are calling themselves libertarians understand anything beyond their own personal desires at any moment.
It is well established in law that certain rights can be suspended in times of extreme emergency where the public safety may require it. There is some cautious optimism that we may have found an effective treatment for this thing. But until that is certain we need to err on the side of caution. This has been done in the past, notably during the 1918 pandemic. Legally these folks are not on good ground.
What stops the Democrats from claiming we have “public health crisis” with violent gun deaths and thus use that as a reason to suspend the 2nd amendment?
Where does this “public health crisis” exception end?
My Marine vet buddy visited family in Miami. He’s in his early 30’s and healthy. He and his GF became ghastly ill and stayed that way for three weeks. They’re over it now, but still having a difficult time breathing and their sinuses are still running. So, probably still able to transmit the disease.
The problem isn’t so much for the young, though what he described was horribly unpleasant. The death rate for people in their 70’s is estimated at 8.5% and at !5% for people in their 80’s. So, yes, overall the death rate is low. But if you love the older people in your life, just put up with restricted gatherings for a few weeks.
I don’t expect to get COVID-19 but if I test positive or have the symptoms, I will go into quarantine, but hopefully this is a hypothetical. I just do not like governors to declare almost anything a national emergency just to spread tyranny. We’ve had pandemics in the past that killed more people, but I did not hear of any limits on the size of gatherings.
Welcome to a republic. It ain’t a democracy.
Thank God.
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