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First World War battlefield in Verdun still a danger
ITV REPORT ^ | 7 August 2018 at 5:50pm | ITV News Europe Editor James Mates

Posted on 08/07/2018 4:43:59 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: wally_bert

“Danger UXB”— one of the greatest tv series ever! You watch the young men meet their rapid demise, see the cat and mouse between the German bomb and fuse designers and the UXB experts, and watch how jaded and old the UXB survivors get very quickly. Highly recommended!

The shocking thing is 1/6 of WW I shells were duds. I had no idea it was that high.


41 posted on 08/07/2018 6:41:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: virgil

Speaking of Ypres, have you watched the movie “The Wipers Times” (2013)? Great movie!


42 posted on 08/07/2018 6:44:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yarddog

I just ran 20 million over six years...that is over 9,000 a day. My God.


43 posted on 08/07/2018 6:48:53 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Jolla

My great uncle was killed at the battle of St. Mihel, 9/1918.
Too bad the archives were destroyed in the warehouse fire in the early 70’s in St Louis.


44 posted on 08/07/2018 6:54:00 PM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

No, I haven’t seen that movie. I just now looked at a synopsis of it. I’ll make a point to watch it sometime. Thanks.


45 posted on 08/07/2018 6:55:09 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: virgil

I really enjoyed it...I think you will too.


46 posted on 08/07/2018 7:01:22 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Something which makes one realize just how many families were destroyed is that U.S. Casualties are relatively light for all of our wars since WWI. Yet in my parent’s high school class of maybe 16, one was killed in WWII.

My high school class of around 160 still had one killed in Viet Nam plus I had a first cousin killed. There were four of us who hung out together in High School. One of the 4 was wounded in Viet Nam.

Among my father’s photos, many taken just after the war is one of Berlin High School. It is just a pile of rubble.


47 posted on 08/07/2018 7:01:41 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: packrat35

Thanks, interesting.


48 posted on 08/07/2018 7:21:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The shocking thing is 1/6 of WW I shells were duds. I had no idea it was that high.

Not necessarily duds. The churned up mud was so soupy and deep that the impact force was sometimes not hard enough to cause a detonation.

49 posted on 08/07/2018 7:25:12 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: robowombat

I visited the Verdun memorial & battlefield in 1970, 52+ years after the battle.

On the bus I could smell the mustard. Locals were given 6 month vacations elsewhere because of the mustard. Signs were posted on the road warning people/cars to avoid leaving the road because of the un-exploded ordinance.

The memorial housed the remains of thousands of unidentified soldiers killed in the battle. I could see through a small window thousands of skulls in one room. Other rooms held legs, arms, & torsos. It was morbid.

I remember seeing a row of bayonets protruding from the ground. This was a squad of soldiers who were buried alive by a nearby shell explosion.

A big problem in clearing the ordinance is that the land is essentially wild, with trees & bushes hindering the effort.


50 posted on 08/07/2018 7:30:28 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: robowombat; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks robowombat.
On December 19, 1944, Eisenhower, Tedder, Bradley, Devers, Patton, Bedell Smith, and a handful of key SHAEF staff officers converged on Verdun, the scene of the bloodiest battle in history in 1916. Before departing for Verdun, Patton briefed his staff and two of his corps commanders at Third Army headquarters in Nancy, explaining that Third Army would be called on to come to the relief of First Army; how and where would be decided at Verdun.

December 16, 1944: Ardennes Offensive Begins, An "Abysmal Failure of Allied Intelligence" by Carlo D'Este

51 posted on 08/07/2018 7:41:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Seruzawa; All

WWI was one of the greatest disasters in Western Civilization.

It was the latent cause of WWII. It destroyed the order of civilization and the respect for the rule of law.

So much that is wrong with the west had its genesis in the aftermath of WWI.


52 posted on 08/07/2018 8:09:57 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: TADSLOS

I’ve never been, but one day I’d like to pay my respects!


53 posted on 08/07/2018 8:17:44 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: robowombat

Many dead are still there as they were left where they were and covered by the dirt flung up by other shells.
Photos at the time show a moonscape of mud.


54 posted on 08/07/2018 8:20:06 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: yarddog

#6 He would have survived if not for all those other exploding 88mm shells.... (support your local sheriff ref)


55 posted on 08/07/2018 8:26:28 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: robowombat

Where the heck was it that a forest started on fire and the unexploded shells started going off?

I believe it was from WW1 shells.


56 posted on 08/07/2018 8:36:06 PM PDT by crz
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To: yarddog

Before it became a casualty of World War II, the chapel of the French officers’ academy at St. Cyr had memorial plaques for each year’s graduating class that had subsequently died in service.

The plaque for 1914 simply read “The Class of 1914”.


57 posted on 08/07/2018 8:39:02 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not that I’ve heard...though they did maintain the Allied cemeteries from the previous war.


58 posted on 08/07/2018 8:41:59 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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on Pinterest, expended artillery casings?

http://i.pinimg.com/736x/a4/fe/62/a4fe62e187fa1201dc2f0040dbd03740—hospital-jobs-verdun.jpg


59 posted on 08/07/2018 8:44:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: robowombat; JohnGalt; Burkeman1

Trollposter JohnGalt insisted that this isn’t true.
He also insisted that “old” chemical weapons weren’t dangerous.
The old WWI battlefields, now farm fields, often turn up chemical weapons that injure farmers.
“Iron harvest” they call it.
Yes, I’m poking a dead body.
And his echo burkeman1


60 posted on 08/07/2018 8:46:08 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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