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Decrease in African Americans in baseball has officials puzzled, concerned
The Miami Herald/St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 22 Mar 2004 | GORDON WITTENMYER

Posted on 03/23/2004 7:10:58 AM PST by Guillermo

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To: Guillermo; joanie-f; snopercod; JeanS
Way, way too many black men and black young men and some black boys, are suffering from their own, self-imposed, over-weaning self-pride, in reaction, or response, to what they informed by the liberal media and race hustlers (Farakhan, J. Jackson, Al Sharpton, Bill Clinton, Q. Mfume, et al), is their place in society.

Such that, black men and young black men and black boys, are enslaved by their own misperceptions.

When they have but to reject such social-engineering masters and think for themselves on the matter of their own self-determination, their self-discipline, and their own desires.

In addition, it would help them tremendously, if black women would stand by their man for what he does right, and help him as he tries to sort out how to be himself WITHOUT having to sound like he's somebody else among his peers.

Dear brother,

You do not need to prove how tough you are. Indeed, a few generations of such attempts to show everybody how "bad" you are, has landed you in jail.

Stop.

Just walk away from any member of "the hood" who demands that you tow their line of bull. They're miserable, but that does not mean that you have to accept their entreaties to you, that you join them in their unwillingness to fix their own lives.

They are trying to ensnare and enslave you to what does not work, is not path to peace, nor is it a path to happiness.

Be happy.

Stop thinking about the color of your skin.

If you only knew how much the rest of the human race actually does not obsess about it, as much as you, nor anywhere near as much as the race hustlers have tried to convince you.

Give yourself a chance, and you will have given both peace and freedom a chance.

I mean yours; and thence those around you whom you love.

Think about other challenges in life.

Aim high.

Apply yourself.

Where you meet resistance, learn to adapt, improvise, and apply yourself again.

If you think that your long march to be free at last, is exclusive to black people and "people of color," I can assure you that the other guys and gals are as anxious as you, that you be free --- but that you set yourself free.

So be unique; buy a baseball game ticket and just go.

You will probably be surrounded by "white people."

Allow me to clue you in about "white people."

They are as tribal as "black people," but your teachers never told you that part, because they wanted you to believe that all "white people are alike."

Yeah. Sure. You've probably noticed in the news, how much "white people" get along with each other?

Please, go be yourself.

I don't really care about the color of your skin.

I care about the quality of your heart and your devotion to family and country and our liberty.

Some terrible fate may befall all of mankind except "black people."

Well, then, I would want you to embrace our Constitution and its foundations and stand up in defense of liberty; support the rule of law; reject unlimited government; love your family; take care of your parents.

Go to a game and breathe in the fresh spring air, and rejoice in the day's freedom with which you are blessed.

If you would simply dare to be your own man.

God Bless.

41 posted on 03/23/2004 7:59:03 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: lewislynn
"Baseball players aren't athletes"

Yeah, right. Baseball is the one sport where a first round pick, a college all-star, will STILL ride the bus in AA and AAA ball for a few years just learning how to play at the Major League level. And even then, a lot of great prospects never make it to the bigs.

It doesn't happen in football or basketball. I suppose it's because baseball is so much easier than those "real" sports.

42 posted on 03/23/2004 7:59:43 AM PST by Bambino
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To: Dudoight
Who cares what race the players are except for those obsessed with finding racism? BTW, if 8% of the population is black and 10% of players are black, whats the problem?
44 posted on 03/23/2004 8:01:51 AM PST by BadAndy (Liberalism is a mental illness.)
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To: smith288
Thanks for the link!

According to that list, there were six Australian players in the major leagues in 2003, appearing in an average of 21 games.

I can see why I overlooked the “influx” of Australian talent.

45 posted on 03/23/2004 8:02:10 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Principled
If they come from Haiti or Jamaica, are they still considered African-Americans??

lose the hyphens already

46 posted on 03/23/2004 8:02:46 AM PST by petercooper (I actually did vote for the $87 Billion, before I voted against it.)
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To: Rodney King
Baseball is a game that fathers teach their sons, and fathers stay involved in up to high school. Anyone look at what has happened to the black family since the 60's?

Basketball is a game the kids can play on the streets without parental involvement. Football is a sport that coaches push kids to play. Baseball is a dad's sport.

47 posted on 03/23/2004 8:05:16 AM PST by Defiant (The bane of Spain is Moslems once again.)
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To: Hoof Hearted; lewislynn
I have no problem that you think baseball is boring, but it doesn't excuse your idiotic comment.

In yo eye! Skooled! < /end ghetto slang to make up for less blacks in baseball>

48 posted on 03/23/2004 8:05:54 AM PST by smith288 (Who would terrorists want for president? 60% say Kerry 25% say Bush... Who would you vote for?)
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To: DCPatriot
But hitting a baseball is no more "athletic" than bowling, playing billiards, playing golf or shooting free-throws. It's much more a skill -- and a very hard one to "master" but it's not very "athletic".
49 posted on 03/23/2004 8:06:33 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: man of Yosemite
poor people can't afford to frequent baseball games.

You're kidding, right? Poor kids spend hundreds of dollars on shoes, cell phones, etc. Not only that, if they can't afford a baseball ticket they certainly can't afford a ticket to a football game - yet no decline in black football players.

More likely it 's the opportunity to play for football and basketball college teams. More exciting and more money.

50 posted on 03/23/2004 8:08:08 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Principled
Decrease in African Americans in baseball has officials puzzled, concerned

Do they care about the increase in basketball.

I don't care about the color of their skin.

I do care about their character both on and off the court or field of play.

51 posted on 03/23/2004 8:08:15 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Mr. Bird
The big money in baseball is the cable TV contracts (Steinbrenner's YES network, for example). These are negotiated by each individual team. That's what the whole big-market/small-market thing is all about.
52 posted on 03/23/2004 8:08:51 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: dead
I met Mark Hutton when I was a batboy (New York farm club, clippers) in the early/mod 90's....he was a Triple A A-hole. My impressions of Aussie players are as such from then on.
53 posted on 03/23/2004 8:08:58 AM PST by smith288 (Who would terrorists want for president? 60% say Kerry 25% say Bush... Who would you vote for?)
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I personally am more concerned about the lack of midgets in all levels of amatuer and professional baseball.

The Prez. should propose the "Gadelle Law" requiring each team have one midget on their playing roster, or at least employ a hunchback as a good luck mascot.

54 posted on 03/23/2004 8:09:07 AM PST by kako (Go Vandy Go!)
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To: Defiant
I think you've hit upon the kernel of truth here.
55 posted on 03/23/2004 8:09:32 AM PST by Petronski (Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
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To: CharacterCounts
Nme just one famous synchronized swimmer from any race!

Eleanor Holm and Johnny Weismuller.

56 posted on 03/23/2004 8:10:57 AM PST by spodefly (A tagline is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: dead
I can see why I overlooked the “influx” of Australian talent.

Actually, if you look at the 2002 numbers, there was 5 aussies averaging about 27.8 games so influx is false reporting.

57 posted on 03/23/2004 8:13:26 AM PST by smith288 (Who would terrorists want for president? 60% say Kerry 25% say Bush... Who would you vote for?)
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To: DCPatriot
Player salaries have absolutely no bearing on the price of seats.

I know, I was quoting someone else. My point is that seat prices and blacks in the audience dont matter, since the other sports had no problems getting black players.

58 posted on 03/23/2004 8:15:18 AM PST by Paradox (Click clack, click clack click click clack clack clack.)
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To: DCPatriot
I've always loved the 'who is a better athlete' debates. For anyone who is even remotely analytical, it's the easiest argument to win:

First, assume that every living male on the planet would like to be a professional athlete, with desire increasing in proportion to the sport's popularity ie money/sex.

Two, determine the average height/weight/strength required to play a respective sport.

Three, calculate the total pool of talent available within the respective segments competing to gain entrance. One's individual odds of 'making it' are proportional to the total number of competitors.

Results:
1. Soccer
2. Baseball
3. Ice Hockey

Now, for anyone that is going to reply that soccer, er, sucks, yeah, I agree - I just don't find it that interesting. BUT, the most valuable sports franchise is Manchester United, and some of the highest salaries are paid to soccer players.

Given the fact that you can be 5'6" and 140 lbs to play, the world-wide potential pool of athletes is in the billions. So, the draw is there - those that are stars are super-natural athletes.

Baseball is so obviously comprised of the best US athletes it's essentially laughable to even debate the point. Like soccer, but less so, one can be 5'9" and 160 lbs and still be competitive. How many males are this size? Oh, maybe 70% out of say a pool of 1 billion (that has an interest in baseball).

Regarding basketball: If you are 6'6" (small for the NBA), you might have a 1:100 (or less) chance of having played some college and maybe even tried-out for a pro team simply for being that TALL. Now, how many people out of the general population are that height? Try practically nil. It is so height delimited that it defies consideration.

Football: again, a freak of nature sport. If you see someone who is 6'4"/240 lbs on the street, you can easily assume that they have played football at some point. Even clods at that size are tried-out by high-school coaches.

Hockey would be higher on the list if it appealed to a greater range of the population. But, even withing its narrow sphere, the avg size requirements compared to the speed, endurance, agility, eye/hand, etc all make it a much more demanding sport than many others ie you have to be a great athlete to be a 'player' (yeah, there are thugs, but that's the sideshow aspect).

59 posted on 03/23/2004 8:15:40 AM PST by Snerfling
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To: AmishDude
I know, and some people still don't get it. MLB is not some pristine capitalistic model; it has massive financial inequities that I think should be addressed. Local TV revenue is square one. No owner should receive more revenue simply by virtue of geography.
60 posted on 03/23/2004 8:16:37 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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