Posted on 01/22/2005 9:36:11 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage
HAGEL: Well, because our borders, north and south, thousands of miles, are the most critical, urgent issue facing our country. Why? It is security. It's economics.
And to continue to defer dealing with immigration reform continues to put America in a very dangerous situation.
Reports last week, for example, focused on various international terrorist groups starting to talk with groups south of the United States about getting some terrorists into this country. ----snip
It undermines our economic growth in this country by essentially supporting a black market in the economy. It deals directly with security and economics and our geopolitical relationships around the world. So I'd say that's pretty urgent. ---snip
But we've got to do far more. And we can't just put Band-aids on it, talking about driver's licenses. Those are just symptoms of a bigger problem. We've got to get into a very core discussion and action on reforming our entire immigration process.
We've got 10 to 12 million immigrants here illegally. We don't even know where they are. We don't know who they are. We need to start getting some sense of that to begin with, so we can concentrate on the problem areas and the problem people.
PILGRIM: How does your proposal, Senator, differ from President Bush's guest worker plan?
HAGEL: Well, mine's a comprehensive immigration reform plan, Kitty. What the president is talking about is, in general terms, with principles.
And what I would do, I would take it much deeper and wider. In my Bill that I had introduced last year -- we'll introduce again this year -- in terms of real reform across the board. Not just worker visas, but let's try to focus on the 10 to 12 million illegals who are here now, start cataloging them. Where are they?
(Excerpt) Read more at transcripts.cnn.com ...
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I am ashamed to say that this idiot is my US Senator. I as GOP are more proud of Sen Nelson (A DEM) that I am of this moron.
HAGEL:
If they want to stay and be part of our society, let's find them. That's not amnesty. We're talking about six basic things. We're talking about criminal records. Have they paid their taxes? Have they been here five years? They're going to have to pay a $1,000 fine. Will somebody vouch for them? Are they working now? This is not amnesty.
HAGEL:
Let's find them. Let's get them into a queue of legality so they can start working toward eventual citizenship or whatever they want, so we can take our resources and focus on the ones who are here to do harm to our country and put a new focus on our border security.
FYI
You may wind up with a choice of Hagel or Hillery. It all depends on who the "machine" supports.
You guys are so transparent, if you were true to your usual rhetoric on FR, you would be demanding Hagel ship them all out in boxcars.
In reality Hagel and the President are on the same page.
"We've got 10 to 12 million immigrants here illegally. We don't even know where they are. We don't know who they are. We need to start getting some sense of that to begin with, so we can concentrate on the problem areas and the problem people."
Don't know where to look? Try going to Home Depot or Lowe's. How is that for starters!
NO, Hagal, has always been on his own "page"!
"Reform" will just be a band-aid. Until mexico reforms itself, we'll continue to have problems. Stand up, mexicans!!
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I think conservatives would vote for Guiliani before Hagel in a GOP primary.
"You guys are so transparent, if you were true to your usual rhetoric on FR, you would be demanding Hagel ship them all out in boxcars. "
Example? Is that too much to expect from the resident expert on transparency and rhetoric?
And yes, I realize he and the president are on the same page, along with George Soros, MALDEF, AARP....and you!
All Hagel is doing is trying to play to the small minority of people who are obsessed with the issue of immigration. He knows that he is too much of a RINO to win the 2008 nomination so for the next four years we'll see him try to draw enough support from the fringes of the party.
Even Hagel could bother to look for the more proper 20 million figure if he were sincere.
Hagel thinks he's going to be the next President.
LOL!
how to these jerks get elected
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Even Hagel could bother to look for the more proper 20 million figure if he were sincere.
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Yes, that will be the day when someone in Washington (or elsewhere, for that matter) has the BALLS to stand up against illegal immigration and securing our borders. Those illegal votes are just too precious.
Again, politics is winning over what is right for our country and its REAL CITIZENS.
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