Posted on 07/18/2012 5:28:41 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot
During a Bowling Green, Ohio, town hall on Wednesday, presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney assured a tea party supporter that his pick for VP will be "a conservative," and responded quickly to an "angry mom" who called the president a "monster" that he wouldn't use that term.
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Jim:
It is very likely true that all these ABOs who are sowing discord among conservatives are causing far more damage to conservatism than any ‘lost’ votes for Romney. I haven’t seen a single one of them convince a conservative to give up his principles and pull the lever for Romney. But I am seeing damage to Free Republic and conservatism.
Let’s say, by all their efforts, they convince 3 of us to yield. But in the process they berate & harrass 300 conservatives. They cause 100X more damage than they repair.
blueyon:
Obama is counting on people just like you to not vote for Romney...
Kevmo:
And Obama is counting on people like you to sow discord among conservatives. You’re probably causing far more damage than any ‘lost’ votes for Romney.
That's one way to look at it, but frankly, I think the vehement and vitriolic ABOers, whom I find easy to forgive as they are mostly that way because they're scared and angry, are actually the minority of ABOers in general.
I think most ABOers are more inclined to want unity and civility, and have as much despair as any of us looking at the prospect of Romney.
Most important, whether the fellow patriots who are ABOers that we debate with here are vitriolic or civil, either way, discussion ensues and hopefully day by day, drip by drip, more and more conservative patriots on the verge of voting for statist Romney, will instead see the better sense, if seemingly riskier gamble, of heeding their common sense and gut instinct, which was correct from the start: Romney is bad news. Just as they thought all along, and that the conventional thinking of "Well, we have to vote for him 'cause he's the nominee even though we despise everything the guy stands for," has outlived its usefulness and become counterproductive.
Instead of letting fear, anger, and a sense of helplessness dictate how we vote, we are surely better guided by principles that unite us, and cool calculation of risks. Risk is the price you pay for opportunity. There is ZERO risk with Romney; he is guaranteed to make liberalsm more powerful in both parties. Therefore, there is ZERO OPPORTUNITY with Romney.
Sooner or later, smart patriots all will figure that out. Let's hope before November.
Frankly, I'm glad to see ABO-reluctant-Romney folks on FR -- it is a sure sign that despite Obama's most cherished desire, we REMAIN UNITED, though we disagree on the best way to overcome the sources of authoritarian government tyranny that so threaten our freedom and the freedom of our grandchildren.
“Again please re think it and do as you want. I am VOTING PRO LIFE.”
If you really think Romney is “pro life”, then you have become a fool, because you have been deceived. Romney has a definite record of being pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-government statist. Plus, he is a avid member of an insidious cult....started by the L. Ron Hubbard of the 19th Century. Romney is poison...he is no better than Obama.
I see no advantage of a Romney admistration over an Obama one. Both are bad. I WILL NOT COMPROMISE. You really need to shut up about promoting Romney.
You are a RINO, as in Romney Is Not Obama.
And people like you helping Obama win a second term is conservative? Are you joking? My first, second and third choice didn't win the primary. Unlike you, I'm opting to act like an adult and vote for Romney to remove Obama from office.
The fact that folks like you have more rage at Romney than Obama, after what Obama’s already done to this country, and are willing to help hand Obama a second term is sick! If Obama wins, we'll hold people like you responsible.
If your preferred candidate had won the primary, and others did what you are doing, you'd be expressing outrage. Just stay home and let the grown-ups take care of removing the Marxist.
Oh, and you might want to ask JimRob why the FReepathons are taking so long to meet goals the past few months. When long-time members are ridiculed and insulted because we're choosing to actively try and remove Obama, by voting for the WINNER of the GOP primary, then people will find other sites to call home. We're trying to actively remove Obama. What in the heck are you doing? Nothing but having a sorry a$$ pity party. "Rebellion On!" Pfft.
And people like you helping Obama win a second term is conservative?
***WTF? You really think JimRob is helping Obama win a second term?
Are you joking?
***Are YOU? We PROVE to you that what you’re doing, by sowing discord among conservatives is NOT conservative. And you CONTINUE to do it? For the sake of the hundreds of conservatives who read your statements and are berated by them, how much damage have you done? How many votes is that worth?
Unlike you, I’m opting to act like an adult and vote for Romney to remove Obama from office.
***The adult thing to do is to go and convert obots into mittbots and leave us conservatives alone. By your way of counting, for each obot vote conversion to mittbot would count as 2 votes.
The fact that you’d rather continue to berate conservatives proves your intentions are not conservative.
The fact that folks like you have more rage at Romney than Obama,
***BowlSheet. We have more rage at Obama. But when you vote, you’re voting FOR someone. I can’t vote FOR a lying, babykilling statist.
after what Obama’s already done to this country, and are willing to help hand Obama a second term is sick!
***This, right here is utter and compleet bowlsheet. Voting FOR someone is all you can do. Voting for joe sixpack instead of Romney means you voted FOR joe sixpack, you didn’t vote FOR Obama. If the GOP wanted our votes, they wouldn’t continue to stab conservatives in the back, time and again.
If Obama wins, we’ll hold people like you responsible.
***Yup, there it is. The alibi. Like the guy who pretends to hurt his thumb before playing golf — if he plays well it was inspite of his sore thumb and if he doesn’t play well it’s because of it. Well, BullShiite. People like YOU should simply be zotted. You obviously aint conservative. You’re here to stir up discord and blame us afterwards if your bozo doesn’t win. Those are standard republican tactics and Free Republic is NOT a republican website.
I don’t like Romney as POTUSA and especially CinC, not having taken his turn in actual armed defense of the USA. However I am not as rigid as you seem to be mainly because I strongly believe Obama and all of his enablers are a real and dangerous threat for the USA which overrides my angst about Mitt. With this said if Romney does not choose to go with an established conservative person, someone of a Tea Party attitude, and if he chooses someone of the Mormon background, my chips are off the table. As to the Mormon thing, I have good friends who are Mormons but having two people of the same faith on the ticket is bit too much for me and would probably mean the election is down the tubes.
If your preferred candidate had won the primary, and others did what you are doing, you’d be expressing outrage.
***Well, duhh, because our preferred candidate would be conservative. Anyone going tribal on a conservative is obviously NOT a conservative. Kinda like what you’re doing, right here.
Just stay home and let the grown-ups take care of removing the Marxist.
***Who says I’m staying home? I’m writing in a conservative republican at the top of the ticket, straight republican all the way down. Of course, with all you ABO Romney Rump Rangers running around causing ill will with conservatives, I can see why they’d stay home.
Oh, and you might want to ask JimRob why the FReepathons are taking so long to meet goals the past few months.
***This seems to come up every election year with you blowhard CINOs.
When long-time members are ridiculed and insulted because we’re choosing to actively try and remove Obama, by voting for the WINNER of the GOP primary, then people will find other sites to call home.
***Here’s a hint: If your candidate has a truthfile associated with him, it means he aint conservative. If he’s the winner of the GOP primary, that’s great, but Free Republic is not a GOP website, it is a conservative one. That doesn’t seem to get through your thick skull. People calling other sites home is exactly what happened with TBL or whatever the latest anti-Freeper site is. Before that it was Wideawake, Clown Posse, Darwin Central, probably half a dozen others.
We’re trying to actively remove Obama.
***Good. Go and convert some obots into mittbots.
What in the heck are you doing?
***Defending conservatism from republicans and other non-conservatives.
Nothing but having a sorry a$$ pity party. “Rebellion On!” Pfft.
***You are becoming worse than a non-conservative. You’re crossing the line to ANTI-conservative. For the life of me, I don’t understand why JimRob doesn’t zot anti-conservatives like you.
“....I strongly believe Obama and all of his enablers are a real and dangerous threat for the USA which overrides my angst about Mitt...”
I also strongly believe Obama is a dangerous threat; every Romney opposer knows that. However, I (and other like me) realize that Romney is just as big a threat...in different & similiar ways.
Actually, it is totally irelevant who Romney picks...he will still be Romney...a VP pick is JUST for show.
In what ways is Romney more dangerous than Obama? I don’t think Romney would be promoting or bowing down to Islam but admittedly he could be soft on Islam to the point of sheltering against any opposition. I also believe that Romney does not have and has not expressed opinions that our Constitution needs some changes even though I really want the candidate for POTUSA to openly say the Constitution is the only basis for all actions/positions of government. I also believe that the VP choice is very important especially as to any possible reason for succession. A VP is like a pendant around the neck of the POTUSA and that is why for Romney, in my opinion, someone with a Tea Party attitude should be Romney’s VP.
I'm a conservative, but my choice did not win the primary. Whatever Romney is, he DOES NOT HATE THE COUNTRY AS FOUNDED, AND HAS AS HIS MISSION THE GOAL TO DESTROY IT! Sorry, but when you extreme anti-Romney types try and make the lame ass argument that Romney and Obama are the same, it makes you look like DUmmies.
The fact that you are taking an action that will aid Obama in his reelection bid is unconscionable! Where have you been the past 3 1/2 years? Obama’s attacked our allies, he's embraced our enemies, he's attacked religion, he's actively destroying our economy, he killed the space program, he's closed nine border patrol offices, he pushed for the successful repeal of DOMA, he gutted the work requirement for Welfare Reform, he lied about the cost and every other provision in ObamaCare; yet despite all of this, you're going to do a write-in (a supremely idiotic move) and help Obama capture a second term. And you can sit here and smugly lecture the rest of us who've decided to be proactive in removing the Marxist from office, as “going tribal on conservatives”? Are you F-ing serious?!?!
The way I see it, folks like you are not only selfish, but you're delusional. You've seen what this American-Hating Marxist has done to the country, but you just can't bring yourself to vote for Romney. No Sir, you simply can't allow a dangerous guy like Romney to win the presidency. Sick, delusional, and just plain sad!
Hey, if you want me zotted, just report me to JimRob or another moderator. It's actually quite simple.
The last thing he wants is for you or other people of reason to be zotted. Whom else will he act pompous in front of then?
These anti-Romney types desperately want people to believe that Romney and Obama are the exact same thing. As bad as Romney might be in some areas, his life and career don't even put him on the same galaxy as Obama. These folks want us to believe that Romney would: gut the military, destroy our borders, destroy our economy, embrace our sworn enemies (while dissing our greatest allies), increase the welfare rolls, harbor class warfare, destroy the private sector...yada, yada! Sorry, but Americans have witnessed Obama doing these very things. To say that Romney would do these things is simply not based in reality.
Anybody who is not actively trying to remove the Marxist from office is part of the problem. In their holier than thou quest at absolute purity, these extreme anti-Romney folks will allow a known Marxist another four years to finish his destruction of our nation. There is nothing laudable or sane in this position.
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