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China’s buying of German firm risk for Turkish UAV
Hurriyet Daily News ^ | September/17/2013 | Burak BEKDİL

Posted on 09/16/2013 10:00:38 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

China’s buying of German firm risk for Turkish UAV

Burak BEKDİL

Chinese Avic’s acquisition of German Thielert, leaves the first Turkishmade drone, the Anka, without an engine. Turkish officials are worried that buying of Thielert, engines supplier of Anka, may delay the project

It looked entirely like any other business takeover between the Chinese and Germans with no relevance to Turkey. But the news that a Chinese group had acquired the troubled German maker of aircraft engines means Turkey must now find a new engine supplier for its first indigenous unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), the Anka.

Turkish officials and the Anka team are now worried that Chinese group Avic International’s acquisition of Thielert, a bankrupt German maker of diesel engines for aircraft may further delay the Anka which would otherwise have been powered by Thielert’s Centurion engine.

Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) which develops the Anka had ordered the Centurion for a batch of 10 aircraft. Now TAI must look elsewhere to find a new engine to power the Anka.

The ANKA is a medium-altitude long-endurance MALE-category drone. Such UAVs usually operate for 24 hours at an altitude of 10,000 feet.

ANKA, meaning Phoenix in English, is the first MALE-type UAV to be produced by TAI. One of the prototypes crashed during a test flight in September but several other flight tests have been carried out successfully.

ANKA+, another version of the ANKA, calls for an armed vehicle, using a rocket attached to its body and sensors.

An engine maybe developed to replace

“An immediate replacement could be a difficult task,” a TAI official said. “We may, though, ask TEI (TAI’s sister company that manufactures engine parts) to develop an engine for the Anka.” Both TAI and TEI (Turkish Engine Industries) are owned by a military support fund.

The engine problem occurred at a time when defense procurement authorities are preparing to sign a contract for the acquisition of 10 ANKAs. Separately, the Turkish police force is also preparing to place an order for the Anka.

Before the engine snag, another problem had delayed the Anka program. A locally-developed electro optical sensor, by military electronics firm Aselsan, did not fit Anka’s specifications and TAI was mulling to opt for a foreign pod.

Avic said in August that it was merging Thielert into its Continental Motors division and was giving up military business. Deliveries had stopped, the state-run Chinese company announced.

Thielert was supplying engines for aircraft including a U.S. Army version of the General Atomics Predator. General Atomics has acquired the engine data package and intends to continue production and support.

Satellite-controled version of ANKA

The ANKA had successfully passed acceptance tests late in January. The final, decisive tests on Jan. 20-21 involved a full endurance, 18-hour flight, successful auto landing, data link performance at a distance of 200 km (approx. 120 miles) under winds up to 45 knots, and night take-offs and landings. The ANKA has so far did more than 150 flight hours. There is a possibility that TAI could develop a satellite-controlled version of the ANKA, company officials say.

A defense industry expert said that finding a new engine supplier may not resolve the entire problem. “Any new engine will have to be fitted into the Anka which was designed for the Thielert engine. This will require new (engine) integration work. New tests should also be done,” he said.

September/17/2013


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; syria; turkey; uav; worldwariii; worldwarthree; wwiii

1 posted on 09/16/2013 10:00:38 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A bankrupt company would have supplied no engine for sure.
Why should a Chinese company not sell engines to Turkey? It looks like the UAV developing company is looking for excuses for delays.


2 posted on 09/17/2013 2:26:02 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: MHalblaub

From Wiki...
“However, recently, because of China’s recent conflicts with Turkic Uyghur separatists, relations have at times been strained.”

I’m sure Honda or Porsche would be glad to step in and fill the gap.


3 posted on 09/17/2013 2:55:42 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
I’m sure Honda or Porsche would be glad to step in and fill the gap.

Well....

Thielert made an entry into Gen-Av with a Diesel(s) and had problems and I believe were bought out. Both Honda and Porsche have dabbled with Gen-Av. Honda showed off a letter of Memorandum Engine with Teledyne Continental a number of years back @ Oshkosh and Porsche designed and certified for production a version of the 911 engine with not a lot of success and got out of the business. If my memory is correct the Thiehert entry was esentially a Mercede's auto engine with a limit on TBO, i.e. new engine @ overhall. What is going on here is China gets a Diesel Gen-Av type engine which is required for UAV's via NATO Heavy Fuel Requirements.

What is disturbing is China also bought Teledyne Continental Piston Engines as well a while back. They are buying up everything they can get their hands on, in this arena. Not Good, IMHO...

4 posted on 09/17/2013 3:17:19 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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Ok, here is the story. Avic / Continental bought it to get Diesel's in their product line..

http://www.flyingmag.com/news/continental-motors-acquires-thielert-aircraft-engines

5 posted on 09/17/2013 3:25:44 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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