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'Antifa' violence in Berkeley becomes problem for left-wing activist community
LA Times ^ | Aug, 29, 2017 | Paige St. John and James Queally

Posted on 08/29/2017 7:13:13 AM PDT by Hadean

Of the dozens of organizations that turned out for Sunday’s mass protest against racism here, one group was impossible to miss.

Its members dressed head to toe in black, with masked faces and some bearing pastel-painted riot shields that read “no hate.” These 100 or so militants billed themselves as a security force for progressive counter-protesters, vowing to protect them from far-right agitators.

But as the protest got underway, some of those in masks would resort to mob violence, attacking a small showing of supporters of President Trump and others they accused, sometimes inaccurately, of being white supremacists or Nazis.

The graphic videos of those attacks have spurred soul-searching within the leftist activist movement in the Bay Area and beyond. Emotions remain raw in the wake of this month’s white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., which left one woman dead and dozens injured.

Does violence help Trump’s claims?

Trump received blistering criticism for equating the behavior of Klansmen and neo-Nazis to the actions of those who opposed them. Some fear that Sunday’s violence would only help advance the idea that the two sides are the same.

“This is food for the adversary,” said sociologist Todd Gitlin, a founder of Students for a Democratic Society, which organized the first national protests against the Vietnam War. He pointed out that violent acts committed by a few will almost always hijack the narrative of the entire protest, and that it is happening now should be no surprise.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifa; berkeley
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1 posted on 08/29/2017 7:13:13 AM PDT by Hadean
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“’Antifa’ violence in Berkeley becomes problem for left-wing activist community”

Not enough of it, Freaks?!


2 posted on 08/29/2017 7:16:34 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Hadean

“This is food for the adversary”

So he has no problem with the violent suppression of dissent, just the PR impact.


3 posted on 08/29/2017 7:16:47 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Hadean

The thugs are being paid and protected from the police by Leftist office holders. In short it is a conspiracy to violate the free speech constitutional rights of peaceful demonstrators. Sessions must arrest the thugs when they attack protesters, violate their civil rights and indict thos who pay and protect them.


4 posted on 08/29/2017 7:17:36 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: Hadean
The graphic videos of those attacks have spurred soul-searching within the leftist activist movement in the Bay Area and beyond.

It might -- if they had souls.

5 posted on 08/29/2017 7:18:18 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Your Free Speech is Violence. My Violence is Free Speech.)
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To: Hadean

A group called anti fascist , carrying signs saying no hate, and love not hate attacks peaceful protesters who are hosting a freedom of speech rally.

Anyone see the irony, and how how stupid these people are?


6 posted on 08/29/2017 7:18:29 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: Hadean

Trump supporters are not violent and are not ‘Neo-Nazis’ OR ‘White Supremicists’. Antifa are violent thugs who hide behind masks so as to not be identified or be held responsible for their actions. Antifa are much Iike ISIS. Antifa should be named as a terrorist group NOW.


7 posted on 08/29/2017 7:18:42 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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>>But as the protest got underway, some of those in masks would resort to mob violence, attacking a small showing of supporters of President Trump and others they accused, sometimes inaccurately, of being white supremacists or Nazis.

For two whole weeks the militant mob media beat down on Trump (and his supporters) claiming that he was a supporter of white supremacists and neo-nazis for saying that not every in Charlotteville was a bad person (i.e. not a white supremacist or neo-nazi). And he extended that to the Left (basically that they were not all militant (Communists) either).


8 posted on 08/29/2017 7:18:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: originalbuckeye

AntiFA call police “fascists” on their website. They call Bush a “fascist” on their website.

Their definition of “fascist” is not textbook.


9 posted on 08/29/2017 7:20:02 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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“This is food for the adversary,” said sociologist Todd Gitlin, a founder of Students for a Democratic Society, which organized the first national protests against the Vietnam War.

Shouldn't this guy be in an old folks home by now?................

10 posted on 08/29/2017 7:20:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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Does violence help Trump’s claims?

It is just terrible when facts get in the way of a good Democrat/lamestream media narrative.

11 posted on 08/29/2017 7:21:04 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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>http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/08/fake_news_shocker_cnn_video_exposes_true_antifa.html<

CNN exposes antifa:

“Pay close attention to the words of the person speaking for Antifa in the video. She describes Antifa as “any group that’s willing to stand up against fascists by any means necessary.” She goes on to say that they “don’t rely on the cops or the courts to do the work for us,” and that the Antifa groups “have to speak in a language they (alleged fascists) understand, and sometimes that’s violence.”


12 posted on 08/29/2017 7:21:17 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Trump received blistering criticism for equating the behavior of Klansmen and neo-Nazis to the actions of those who opposed them. Some fear that Sunday’s violence would only help advance the idea that the two sides are the same.

The only people criticizing Trump for his equating the violence of the two sides are those that want to deliberately ignore the violence of the leftists. As for the other assertion, the only ones fearing the idea that the two sides are the same are those on the left that want to excuse the violence of the left. This is pure Goebbels.

13 posted on 08/29/2017 7:21:25 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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supporters of President Trump and others they accused, sometimes inaccurately, of being white supremacists or Nazis.


sometimes inaccurately?... there was not one white supremacist or nazi at that Berkeley rally


14 posted on 08/29/2017 7:22:11 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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It’s going to be a bigger problem than they think next year in November!


15 posted on 08/29/2017 7:22:57 AM PDT by Savage Beast (To the insane, the sane appear insane. MAGA = Renaissance!)
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'Antifa' violence in Berkeley becomes problem for left-wing activist community

We should say that ALL left-wing demonstrators are violent and hateful because they attend the say demonstrations as Antifa.

That's what the left, the media and the RINOs do to the folks on the right when Neo Nazis show up.

16 posted on 08/29/2017 7:24:42 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Jeff Chandler

They all have souls, they just don’t recognize that theirs will be hung in the balance and be found wanting.


17 posted on 08/29/2017 7:24:53 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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They all have souls, they just don’t recognize that theirs will be hung in the balance and be found wanting.


18 posted on 08/29/2017 7:24:53 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: manc
Anyone see the irony, and how how stupid these people are?

Manc, they are not stupid. They are evil. They want power and however they get it does not matter.

If they get the power they want, all the protestors that are causing trouble in the streets will meet a surprise ending. You can't have revolutionaries at loose ends in a people's state.

19 posted on 08/29/2017 7:25:28 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Hadean
🏏💣⚒. Too little? Is that their complaint?
20 posted on 08/29/2017 7:26:11 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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