Posted on 10/12/2017 3:48:48 PM PDT by wardaddy
“I dunno if they were into their flirty fishing routine at the time or if that came later.”
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That came a bit later, the were just getting their act together in the late 60s. I ran into ‘em in the early 70s, nice people, but weird beliefs once you knew them a bit. Not a Californian (thankfully) :) but I’m reasonably knowledgeable on most cults.
You can read more about the COG at this site, run by ex-members. It has info about “Flirty Fishing” and other resources. The group still exists as “The Family International”, but they have supposedly given up their unsavory practices years back. “Moses David” is long since gone.
http://www.exfamily.org/index.htm
Bryan Singer directed a boy in Apt Pupil and that kid led a short, messed-up life. Homosexual Joel Schumacher directed Corey Haim—making his character in The Lost Boys an obvious gay—and we all know the life Haim lived. I can’t think of any child actors in any of Emmerich’s films (some in The Patriot, but I doubt it was safe to try anything with Mel around). Obviously, there’s no way to know if anything improper happened between these men and boys. Just food for thought.
Oh, there was some incredibly sick bastard who directed a film called Jeepers Creepers. He was in prison for what he did with one of the boys.
Whenever somebody says “I don’t care what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom”...the response:
You mean like raping kids?
I just found out that pig director of Jeepers Creepers was sentenced to a mere three years and served 15 months. He filmed himself raping a 12-year-old boy! And, it turns out this was before he made Powder, Jeepers Creepers, and his other Hollywood films. After his crimes were known, he made a movie starring Eric Roberts and Lance Henricksen. I’m disgusted by and immensely disappointed with Henricksen.
Don't forget about the Depends (and the yeast infection)
I feel bad for a lot of the women.
Even if they willing slept on the casting couch, it’s not so easy to say no when everything you’ve ever dreamed of is within your grasp.
DOESN’T make it right. But you pay the price in LOSING YOUR MIND like so many female actresses do.
But i’ve always been a soft touch :)
As fr Harvey, #### him, I ALWAYS hated that SOB
They seemed cultish to me just from that first exposure. I don’t recall the particulars, but it was probably from how Moses David treated his flock. They looked pretty much like the crew attending the Calvary Chapel tent but Chuck Smith wasn’t running a cult
Ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My eyes!!!!!
Damn my eyes!!!
“They seemed cultish to me just from that first exposure. I don’t recall the particulars, but it was probably from how Moses David treated his flock. They looked pretty much like the crew attending the Calvary Chapel tent but Chuck Smith wasn’t running a cult”
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Yeah, Smith was pretty much mainstream evangelical, as are the Calvary bunch - he was just in the right place and time when the “Jesus Movement” happened, late 60s-early 70s.
This video can be considered NSFW or for kids, but only because some of the illustrations used in original “Moses David”s writings concerning the COG practice “flirty fishing” are not “appropriate”. It’s comprehensive, but short.
“What is Flirty Fishing?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBIHA5auF5c
To think that McGowan and other kids had to grow up in such depravity masked as religion. I believe River Pheonix grew up with COG parents, also. Don’t really know much else about him, I don’t keep up with recent celebs, esp. dead ones that much. I’m more of a classics aficionado - Bogie, Audrey Hepburn (Kate Hepburn, too), etc and so on.
AGREE ......self immolation at its best .
Close. $72.8 billion according to Forbes. He’s number 3 in the world behind Bill Gate & Warren Buffett.
great job Louis at attributing something truly hideous to someone that they did not say so you can puff and look heavenward
Did they let you have your pudding tonight....I sure hope so
I have someone I truly enjoy the company of who is a B level producer in Hollywood and has A list name recognition and ran number one a few years ago on TMZ and twitter due to his involvement in a super public triangle with an actress who was red hot coverage wise then
He knows his way around the Hills there
Very erudite and cultured
I called him today to bullchip about this very topic and to talk about my coming out before Christmas
His said the conventional wisdom was as follows out there
Harvey is a vile nasty sweaty stinky perv pig who nobody really likes
Harvey’s brother Bob is who is behind getting him out
Some of the same people now piling on were the same folks who let him ride if they got roles or made money
The homosexual exploitation is far more vile and pervasive
That women out there sleep with you so easily to get what they want that you are shocked when they don’t give a hint that’s on the table
And that Harvey raped and did pervy crap cause he liked it because tons of women would have did anything for help and he wouldn’t have had to force himself
My friend is a conservative leaning libertarian who is loving watch it all collapse
He is of the firm opinion you want a wife you go to the South or some other heartland environment
He is very jaded with women out there and lord have mercy he has squired some famous gorgeous women
I think the gold Hollywood offers especially for girls is not worth the price
“great job Louis at attributing something truly hideous to someone that they did not say”
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We’re talking about what Weinstein did here, i.e. perversion and rape of those who felt were his inferiors. There’s just not enough polish in the world to cover that up.
You wrote:
“There is a way to seduce women from a position of power and treat them politely and fair and kindly and likely they will always speak of you with warm regard”
I would be interested in reading exactly how a person in power over another person would accomplish that without ending up in jail or on the wrong side of a lawsuit. Not to mention being warmly praised for doing it.
No offense Louie but if you think men who run film companies can’t squire actresses without it being rape oriented simply because they have a role the actress wants
Well I just don’t buy that
That sounds like something Dworkin or Faludi would say
I think Harvey liked brutalizing women cause he sure didn’t have to
My 60 years of which 25 were spent pursuing women
Women are attracted via several ways
They think you’re hot physically and want you .. which in mine and Harvey’s case...not likely
They love you or might learn to love you cause you have things they are attracted to like kindness and sense of humour and security or good genes. Or a good job ..go to where rich men live and count the ugly wives at Friday night high school football
You have something they want specifically and wil use their physical charms to get it
Its an old concept
And occasionally women are just horny right then and the guy just happens to be right place right time
Harvey did not have to assault or rape or force himself on women
There were more polite respectful ways to seduce women most decent men know inherently
That was great reading. Thanks. It sounds even worse than I thought it was.
Tks
Bloviating on this forum late at night relaxing while Wifey snoozes next to me is one of my wind down pleasure
Long winded I know
I just saw “American Made” with a neighbor today. They must have run 10-15 trailers. On and on and on and on and on.
You should have seen the trailer for an upcoming Owen Wilson film and what they showed (acted/said) in that trailer. They truly have no shame at all. Not that we are surprised.
I’m sorry but we’re just not gonna agree on this. The idea of a guy coming up with ways - no matter how “nice” he thinks he’s being - to “bag the help” for a one off quickie is disgusting to my thinking.
We’re not talking about the owner of a shoe repair store and his gal bookkeeper falling in love, getting married and having 5 kids who all live happily ever after in a house surrounded by a white picket fence.
Yeahbut...
...after 3 or 4 martinis EVERY Vega looks like a Cosworth.
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chevrolet/cosworth-vega/2016048.html
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