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1,600 scientists sign letter opposing Trump’s plan to narrow gender definition
The Hill ^ | 11/01/18 | Owen Daugherty

Posted on 11/01/2018 9:56:43 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

More than 1,600 scientists signed a letter denouncing President Trump administration’s plan to narrow the definition of gender to be strictly biological, according to Buzzfeed.

The letter was written in response to a memo reportedly drafted by the Department of Health and Human Services, according to the New York Times.

The memo states that any disputes about a person’s sex would be clarified using genetic testing, which scientists who signed the letter called unscientific and unethical.

“This proposal is fundamentally inconsistent not only with science, but also with ethical practices, human rights, and basic dignity,” the scientists wrote.

Among the signatories are eight Nobel laureates.

The letter emphasizes that both biological sex and gender are on a spectrum and are not clear cut.

“Our best available evidence shows that affirmation of gender identity is paramount to the survival, health, and livelihood of transgender and intersex people,” the letter states.

More than 50 companies signed onto a statement released Wednesday supporting transgender equality.


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From the original letter:

As scientists, we are compelled to write to you, our elected representatives, about the current administration’s proposal to legally define gender as a binary condition determined at birth, based on genitalia, and with plans to clarify disputes using “genetic testing”. This proposal is fundamentally inconsistent not only with science, but also with ethical practices, human rights, and basic dignity.

The proposal is in no way “grounded in science” as the administration claims. The relationship between sex chromosomes, genitalia, and gender identity is complex, and not fully understood. There are no genetic tests that can unambiguously determine gender, or even sex. Furthermore, even if such tests existed, it would be unconscionable to use the pretext of science to enact policies that overrule the lived experience of people’s own gender identities.

Bottom line: Even if there are genes that determine sex we should still go by how people feel.

1 posted on 11/01/2018 9:56:43 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

These people are supposed to pass as “scientists” nowadays??


2 posted on 11/01/2018 9:58:46 PM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: yesthatjallen

There are three genders of jellyfish


3 posted on 11/01/2018 9:59:34 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: yesthatjallen
article: "The memo states that any disputes about a person’s sex would be clarified using genetic testing, which scientists who signed the letter called unscientific and unethical."

LOL. These "scientists" should be stripped of their degrees and credentials. Now genetic testing is "unscientific"!

Does it surprise anyone that these are the same people peddling "global warming" and "climate change"? Ha ha ha ha.
 

4 posted on 11/01/2018 10:01:15 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Nuke the Caravan!)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

“Science” has become a joke.


5 posted on 11/01/2018 10:01:55 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("An original thought would be such a rush. Why do they feed you a diet of man-made mush?" Al Stewart)
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To: yesthatjallen

We, the General American majority, don’t care if 16 Million ‘scientists’ scribbled their signatures to this letter.
We wish to keep the standard that has worked since the start of Mankind.

There are but two genders, barring the rare phenomenon of Hermaphrodism. We are not willing to keep playing this game of ‘lets pretend I’m a ‘X’, where you can lose your job if you refuse to pretend. It’s an unnecessary drain of time and energy in the social world.


6 posted on 11/01/2018 10:02:35 PM PDT by lee martell (AT)
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To: yesthatjallen

I challenge these scientists to put two mares together in a pasture and time how long it takes them to produce a foal. Idiots.


7 posted on 11/01/2018 10:02:52 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: yesthatjallen

Those aren’t scientists, well, maybe left-wing Political Scientists.

Scumbag leftists!


8 posted on 11/01/2018 10:03:16 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

IMO, the entire theory of evolution is at least as lame as “climate science”.


9 posted on 11/01/2018 10:03:21 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("An original thought would be such a rush. Why do they feed you a diet of man-made mush?" Al Stewart)
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To: yesthatjallen

Mainstream science has become so politicized, it resembles a cult religion more than anything else.

That cult religion has rightfully been dubbed, Scientism.


10 posted on 11/01/2018 10:03:25 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Where is the satire tag?


11 posted on 11/01/2018 10:04:22 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: yesthatjallen

They keep using the word “Scientist” I don’t think it means what they think it means.


12 posted on 11/01/2018 10:04:25 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: yesthatjallen

1,600 faggots


13 posted on 11/01/2018 10:05:43 PM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Avenue.)
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To: yesthatjallen
I feel and believe that I'm good at what I do for a living. That said, I don't think that this qualifies me as an expert in everything else in life. Science encompasses a very broad spectrum of investigation and ‘expertise’. It's hard enough to be at the cutting edge of a very finite area of science, let alone be a scientist AND an expert on matters that are well beyond science and that are predicated on spirituality and philosophy. I don't care if every Nobel Prize-winning scientist over the past two decades signed a letter or petition. It's no different than if my neighbors did the same.
14 posted on 11/01/2018 10:07:34 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: lastchance
SJW: Scientist Justice Warrior
15 posted on 11/01/2018 10:07:43 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: lastchance

“Scientist” now means compromised LIB nitwit. Who knew???


16 posted on 11/01/2018 10:07:45 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: yesthatjallen

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1,600 sexual DV8s


17 posted on 11/01/2018 10:08:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
If they find the ever elusive 'gay gene' we can now disregard it.
18 posted on 11/01/2018 10:09:22 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Selective science based on sin is not science


19 posted on 11/01/2018 10:09:48 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: yesthatjallen
The last I checked, biology is a science.
20 posted on 11/01/2018 10:10:18 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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