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House Democrats float new shutdown offer with more ’21st century’ border security
pbs.org ^ | Jan 23, 2019 | 3 AP writers

Posted on 01/24/2019 1:55:11 AM PST by The Raven

WASHINGTON — House Democrats are putting forward a new proposal to end the government shutdown, aiming to lure President Donald Trump away from his demand for a border wall by offering billions of new dollars for other border security measures.

The offer is a possible path toward a compromise even though it does not have the money the president wants for building the wall between the U.S and Mexico.

The Democratic proposal is expected to go beyond the $1.6 billion the White House initially requested from Congress for border security, before Trump demanded $5.7 billion for his long-promised wall. The proposal is still being drafted.


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KEYWORDS: 21stcenturywall; border; democrats; wall
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

The government shutdown hasn’t been as catastrophic as played up. Over a month now, and it is a big fat yawn except in the leftist media. You are right, not time to give in.

So true.

Perhaps the next step will come today - maybe Mitch will grow a pair and go nuclear in order to have the Senate pass the wall bill. That won’t get us anywhere, but at least it will lay the blame for inaction squarely on the Housebitch.


41 posted on 01/24/2019 5:03:34 AM PST by Pravious
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To: monkeyshine
I agree a border wall must include various sensor, weapon, and communication technology, but must absolutely have a robust physical component.

You said: "...it will also drive traffic to other areas..."

I think it will be fascinating (and illustrative to our points here as conservatives) to see how complaints, crime, and illegal traffic go up at unprotected areas as the border wall pieces are built and funnel illegals into other areas.

I regret the rise in crime that will be inevitable in places that the illegals get funneled into, but I think we have to go through that phase.

It might even have an overall saluatory effect on getting other pieces built as those newly affected areas may push for their own section of the wall to be built.

42 posted on 01/24/2019 5:11:30 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: stonehouse01

The Fraud’s drone managed to deliver itself to his terrorist BFFs in Iran.


43 posted on 01/24/2019 5:30:08 AM PST by treetopsandroofs
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To: DIRTYSECRET
I feel a RIF coming down.

My prediction says that Trump buckles, and then with the talent only he has, he'll spin it into a win.

44 posted on 01/24/2019 5:34:47 AM PST by Drew68 (Eating hamberders, drinking covfefe. MAGA!)
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To: rlmorel

I think you’re exactly right.


45 posted on 01/24/2019 5:35:05 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: The Raven

I agree with deploying 21st century technologies and would forgo a wall, as long as the proposal included self-guiding bullets from auto-turrents (don’t want to waste good ammo), smart land mines (protect animal life, PETA would be proud) and then auto-taggers that shoot people attempting to cross with paintballs filled with nanoparticle RFIDs so the invaders could be tracked by a backup incendiary micro-missile system!


46 posted on 01/24/2019 5:43:13 AM PST by Brown Bag Special (Trust but VERIFY)
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To: stonehouse01

“More BS from the ‘rats. A drone is only as good as its programmer - what if the programmers are deep state? Obviously drones will not work - they could be a tool along with the wall but that is it.”

Let’s start with the rats trying to turn border security into the police department. Nothing they will propose will stop an illegal crossing. The technology will just report in real time that someone has crossed.

It’s like being murdered. Police will arrive at the scene after the crime has been reported.


47 posted on 01/24/2019 5:45:09 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We The People" have turned into "You, The Subjects.")
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To: The Raven

If there is not a strong physical barrier, there is no security.

Why do banks have vaults rather than just video surveillance?


48 posted on 01/24/2019 6:07:02 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Drew68

My prediction says that Trump buckles, and then with the talent only he has, he’ll spin it into a win.


POTUS isn’t buckling. The useless GOP doesn’t want a wall either. He’s a POTUS without a party.


49 posted on 01/24/2019 6:16:43 AM PST by lodi90
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To: The Raven

Electronic security doesn’t stop anyone from coming in. It just lets you know someone did.

It’s worthless as a deterrent.


50 posted on 01/24/2019 6:21:15 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: The Raven

Nancy Blinked, LOL!

Best. Election. Ever. EVER! MAGA! :)


51 posted on 01/24/2019 6:24:18 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: The Raven
What is the leading industry in Nancy's district and who would provide the 21st Century border security?

How much would her husband earn with a 21st Century border security program?

What Easter Eggs could be programmed and who would benefit using these Easter Eggs?

52 posted on 01/24/2019 6:27:49 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: The Raven

The Democrats would spend about 100 millions of it which would go toward their favorite Democrat business to provide over price stuff like drones and cameras and then they would pocket the rest like they have been doing for many years, nothing new.


53 posted on 01/24/2019 6:37:20 AM PST by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: The Raven

They will try absolutely everything except the one thing that we know works. Weird, that.


54 posted on 01/24/2019 6:44:49 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (If we disarmed democrats gun violence would decrease by 90%.)
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To: momincombatboots

What I said happens regularly. For real. You sound skeptical. Research it, then apologize for being a jerk.


55 posted on 01/24/2019 6:47:24 AM PST by amihow
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To: The Raven

DOA without full funding for the wall. They know with no wall, they separate Trump from his base and he will lose 2020.


56 posted on 01/24/2019 6:57:11 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: The Raven

These hi tech virtual fences do not work or if they do they are problematic, we bought one from Lockheed for several billion and it doesn’t work....


57 posted on 01/24/2019 6:58:24 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: The Raven

Star wars zappers in geocentric orbit. Anyone tries to cross the border gets automatically fried.


58 posted on 01/24/2019 7:19:30 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run

“They want nothing that is a permanent fix which stops the flow of illegal aliens(i.e. future government dependents and democrat voters).

Exactly!!!

And here in NYS the demon ‘rats from hell just voted for an endless stream of legal dead babies ... they want legal American preborn babies killed by the millions and then want to replace their lost voters (because the vast majority of aborted children are minority) with illegals from south of the border.

Un Be lievable.


59 posted on 01/24/2019 7:20:39 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: Personal Responsibility

“They will try absolutely everything except the one thing that we know works. Weird, that.”

Just logging on to say the same thing. Typical democrat move. Just like they’re against freedom of choice on everything and anything..your money, speech, health care, etc. EXCEPT killing babies in the womb then they’re all for freedom of choice there.

Same thing here. They are for all kinds of border “security” except the one and very simple thing that will work, a wall.


60 posted on 01/24/2019 7:21:42 AM PST by ctpsb
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