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First IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll gives Biden a 8.5% lead
Investors Business Daily ^ | Oct 12 2020 | IBD Staff

Posted on 10/12/2020 7:44:43 AM PDT by Ikemeister

Update: Joe Biden holds a solid 8.5-point lead over President Donald Trump, barely three weeks ahead of Election Day.

Each day, the IBD/TIPP Presidential Tracking Poll data will reflect a survey of 800-1,000 likely voters conducted over the prior five days.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; biden; bs; election; search; trump
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To: SomeCallMeTim
I'm a little surprised at Trump's flagging support from senior citizens. It's showing up in lots of polls.

Biden was running some ads in Florida about raising Social Security by $1,300 a month (for some)... I suspect the 'some' are the Biden base... and NOT hard working Americans who worked 50 years to earn their Social Security ... in short he's offering something he has no intention of giving.

It's too bad the corrupt press is so busy kissing Biden's .... to raise up their heads and ask him about this...

21 posted on 10/12/2020 8:16:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's base: Why doesn't Biden's Tour have rallies in black communities?)
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To: wiseprince

Tell the mods... with a link to the other thread. It’s the ‘report abuse’ in the reply bar.


22 posted on 10/12/2020 8:19:45 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's base: Why doesn't Biden's Tour have rallies in black communities?)
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To: nbenyo

Seniors voting for the party that wants to feed them to the youthful revolution. Sheesh.


23 posted on 10/12/2020 8:22:15 AM PDT by teevolt
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To: Ikemeister
I disregard any poll results that does not include their call logs(none do). I want to know how many numbers they dialed before someone answered and responded to the questioner. If the records show that out of 1000 numbers called 900 participated in the poll, then I will consider their results to be a valid representation of how their target sample is thinking. If they had to dial 10,000 numbers to get 900 participants then they really can't pin down what the consensus is. All they know is what their respondents are thinking.

Now IBD/TIPP has regularly and consistently been one of the more accurate pollsters out there. But that was then. Now in the era of the shy Trump voter could their results be as skewed as everyone else's.

24 posted on 10/12/2020 8:23:09 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Covid. They’re buying the democrat, ‘Trump didn’t handle it right and your spouse, sibling, friends died’, meme.


25 posted on 10/12/2020 8:23:35 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Ikemeister
First IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll gives Biden a 8.5% lead

Yet, NOBODY, repeat NOBODY showed up for the Biden/Harris rally in Florida except the pool reporters. Poll= BS to the max.

26 posted on 10/12/2020 8:25:25 AM PDT by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

You are touching on something.

The issue with mail in balloting being such a big deal this year is mostly because Americans suck at following directions.

This is nothing new of course. But Americans just don’t read, comprehend, and do things like that very well.

We are going to hear, “Every vote must be counted” all through November—but the reality is that a good portion of the ballots are going to be delivered, but then they will be tossed.

That is going to raise holy hell.


27 posted on 10/12/2020 8:29:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Tonytitan

“I disregard any poll results that does not include their call logs(none do). I want to know how many numbers they dialed before someone answered and responded to the questioner. If the records show that out of 1000 numbers called 900 participated in the poll, then I will consider their results to be a valid...”

Good question. That would be response rate. The surveys you seen today have a response rate of <2%. Prior to automated dialing and when most all households had landlines, response rates were 12-15%. If a client wanted to spend a lot of cash, you could reach a 25 to 30% response rate. For solid repeatable scientific level data you would go for 50% response rate. That gets extremely expensive.

However, if the results between a 12-15 response rate and a 30 or even 50% response rate does account for much. In other words, if with a 2% response rate you may find that Trump has 59.8% of the vote in Montana and with a 30% response rate you may find that Trump has the support of 59.7987% of the voters.


28 posted on 10/12/2020 8:58:50 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Republican Wildcat

White advocacy is not white supremacy.


29 posted on 10/12/2020 9:05:30 AM PDT by riri (All of my heroes are banned from the internet)
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To: Ikemeister
It’s my opinion these garbage polls are directly related to the early voting season. People vote early. Out comes an interesting fact. Oh, well, sorry Charlie, can’t change your vote now!
About the only positive aspect is the death of the “October Surprise”.
30 posted on 10/12/2020 9:10:29 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: riri

white advocacy (whatever that is) may not be white supremacy, but white supremacy is white supremacy. And collectivism and communism are collectivism and communism.


31 posted on 10/12/2020 9:10:30 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Ikemeister

“Independents”

These are just Democrats or Republicans who just want to be “above it all”, and are too chicken to admit to a stranger who they are.

aka: COWARDS


32 posted on 10/12/2020 9:13:11 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: nbenyo
The senior problem is all about COVID. Not SS

Makes sense...

33 posted on 10/12/2020 9:17:11 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Ikemeister

There is absolutely no way that a statically valid sample will show that much variation in a short period of time.

It looks like the results from a severely truncated sample, like many voters are not responding (”shy” Trump voters).

Like 2016, if the Dems are not able to steal millions of votes from battleground states, then Trump will win.


34 posted on 10/12/2020 9:18:24 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon (Thank God for President Trump.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Mark Levin said the other day the Democrat Party insiders are in meltdown mood because they just found out that their voters are too stupid to fill out the ballots correctly.

Looking at a toss rate up to 70% in some areas. This puts every mail in blue state into play.


35 posted on 10/12/2020 9:18:43 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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Biden is not campaigning, Kameltoe is universally despised. Trump has enthusiastic and energetic support in the face of immeasurable hostile so intense that I have never seen it’s like. Trump could helicopter and parachute into Central Park and every bridge in the city would instantly jam with people wanting to participate. Biden has rallies with no attendees, yet there are foot, boat, and car marches continuously for Trump. But we are supposed to believe Biden is not only winning, but winning with an unprecedented monkey stomp


36 posted on 10/12/2020 9:19:23 AM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: Ikemeister

I have only come across 1 Biden voter here in South Carolina that I know.


37 posted on 10/12/2020 9:32:40 AM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: P.O.E.

...the rural vote anymore...
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Rural precincts are tiny. Even IF the mail-in only edicts had happened, these precincts would enlist citizens and, worst case scenario, National Guard to assist counting. That happened here during the April primary. I moved in June. One rural precinct to another within the same state (WI).

It took 2 distinct times, utilizing the Municipal Clerk, to finally get the registration completed and recorded. I was frankly dismayed at how clunky it became. Had I not followed up on both attempts, it is unlikely the registration change would have been recorded.

That said, you can vote provisionally & register at the polls on Election Day. However, in my former jurisdiction, where I knew the vote counters, I know each absentee and provisional was scrutinized and triple checked, even 4 years ago. We have enforced voter ID.

You have less ability to hide out here. As a whole, we may be less visible to the urbanites, as individuals, but, the transplants are visible to the natives.

Ironically, lots of the year-rounders here are transplants from the conservative suburbs around Milwaukee, while we came from 85 miles & 3 counties away. The longer-term residents consider us *locals*. There is nothing trendy in most rural locales and THAT is what draws the prog voter. They took over my former county seat by virtue of a huge employer and a cultic school/HS. Those remain there, but the bistros and boutiques and yoga studios, et al are closed as they are all fanatically afraid of COVID.

In this county (67% for Trump in 2016, stayed R in 2018), many places are open and there is less masking, although it goes up and down with Governor’s edicts. The jobs are hands-on, blue collar trades and we have right to work.

Really, the prog escapees seem to choose areas already full of other progs, while conservatives head for conservative areas. I’ve been told: “There’s nothing to do, there.” And they are right.


38 posted on 10/12/2020 9:38:04 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Just anecdotal:

I am undergoing some elective surgery. One of the instructions I received was to make sure I scheduled a pre-op visit with my PCP. Then I was to call the surgeon’s office with the name, date of the appointment, and their fax number so they could send the documents and needed blood work tests.

So, I made the appointment, and then called the surgeons office.

The scheduling person at the surgeons office will THRILLED to hear from me, and thrilled that I provided the correct information.

She told me that 9 out of 10 people do not do that. And MOST people never read the information period—requiring follow up.

I was stunned because the surgeon, by definition, is going to CUT into my body. I cannot imagine not reading the instructions...

After that experience I am sure that many, many ballots are going to be tossed because people cannot be bothered to read instructions.


39 posted on 10/12/2020 10:47:27 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Ikemeister; dp0622
Angry much?

He is the Italian Hulk. But he's a good guy, Bruce Bannarelli, unless poked.

40 posted on 10/12/2020 11:02:14 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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