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Federal Judge Signals It’s Clear That Trump Tweet Intended to Declassify All Mueller Documents, Orders DOJ to Find Out
Law & Crime ^ | 10/16/2020 | MATT NAHAM

Posted on 10/16/2020 4:21:58 PM PDT by aimhigh

The world is turned upside down: the press says President Donald Trump was telling the truth when he said on Twitter that he declassified all “Russia Hoax” documents, while the Department of Justice argues in court that the president of the United States lied about that. On Friday, Senior U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton said during a hearing that the president’s intent on the subject of complete declassification of Russia documents seemed crystal clear.

Ever since Robert Mueller’s Russia report was released with redactions, multiple lawsuits have sought to force the DOJ to disclose anything from grand jury information to FBI witness interview reports known as 302s. BuzzFeed has been at the forefront of these challenges, while the DOJ has fought tooth-and-nail against these lawsuits at every turn. Then the president stepped in it, promising the declassification of “any and all” Russia documents with “no redactions.” Note: he used the words “I have fully authorized.” . . . . .

Trump, who has called the Mueller investigation a hoax and witch hunt since day one, put the DOJ in the awkward position of having to tell Judge Walton that the president has no idea what he’s talking about and certainly didn’t mean what he said. That’s what DOJ did on Oct. 13.
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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dcdistrict; documents; dubyajudge; federaljudge; judiciary; mueller; politicaljudiciary; reggiebwalton; reggiewalton; trump; trumptweet
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To: aimhigh

And he asked Russia to find Hills emails.....BFD


21 posted on 10/16/2020 5:30:25 PM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: ransomnote

Trump is trying to get the info out. His plan all along. Still has too many opponents. Barr seems to be doing little or nothing. Fire his A$$.


22 posted on 10/16/2020 5:57:21 PM PDT by DrDude (When will we know something about The Storm?)
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To: ransomnote
***I believe Barr held back portions of the Mueller lies (report) because the MSM will treat the lies as if they are truth and run with it. Note the MSM and people like Pelosi have never stopped asserting that Trump is guilty of colluding with Russia***

All well and good. However there is still the matter of Weiner's laptop and Hildy's thousands of emails. There is the matter of the many documents subpoenaed by Repubs in Congress being stonewalled. There is the matter of the depressing lack of production by Durham. There is the lack of prosecution for unmasking - a crime that destroyed Gen Flynn's life. There was the lack of prosecution of Andrew McCabe for a crime that sent Roger Stone to prison with a whole lot less at stake, not to mention McCabe's betrayal of the public trust and his wife accepting money from HRC.

One suspects that AG Barr and the DS are running out the clock to the election; one suspects that POTUS has no friends there. One suspects that we truly do have a dual system of justice and we are on the wrong side of that.

For example, Peter Schweitzer has obtained a cache of emails connected to Hunter Biden's nefarious activities. He obtained them from a man in prison for his part in the scheme. Another participant, Devin Archer is convicted and waiting sentence. One participant remains uncharged: Hunter Biden.

The 'public trust' is hanging by a thread, about to snap. Soon we will either accept servitude of go to civil unrest. And if that happens AG Barr will be a prime cause. I pray that is not the case.

23 posted on 10/16/2020 7:56:24 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: pnut22

Any legal indictment that would result from these documents would come from the DOJ, and they already HAVE them.

Therefore, any declassification and release is for the public’s benefit - for political purposes.

Presidents tweet was to make a political point: namely, that the information, if released, would be damaging to the Democrats. By saying he authorizes it - he signals that he’s not bluffing..

He is announcing weeks before the election that he is holding all the cards...


24 posted on 10/16/2020 7:59:31 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: bitt; little jeremiah
Ping!
25 posted on 10/16/2020 8:00:29 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Bob Ireland
The 'public trust' is hanging by a thread, about to snap. Soon we will either accept servitude of go to civil unrest.

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Wow. This public's trust is not hanging by a thread.

This has never been done before. No one has restored a government 70% corrupt before, particularly without collapsing it. The part you hate, the silence, is the part being used to avoid collapsing the government. The Deep State wins a key battle if the government collapses.

The white hats are going through a minefield successfully. We were never promised a date by which what we wished would happen would take place. 

I don't see us heading toward servitude - have you been watching the news? I don't see Trump or the rest of his team accepting anything but victory.

They've been at this for who knows how many years before they found Trump. They are on board and failure is not an option. They know what would happen to the country if they ever gave up. There may be countless obstacles but giving up or compromising means servitude and death (freedom around the world, the lives of their family members etc.) and these people are not going to let that happen.

Do you remember plan Z? It's still out there. How about all the plans between the one in play and Plan Z?

The following is the bottom of Q618 from Jan 27, 2018 and clarifies an Anon's decode regarding the FBI?

>>175432

[19] would CEASE to exist immediately upon the harm of select individuals. Think nuclear stand-off.
Clarified?
Q

Do you think the black hats stopped using those tactics? Why would the Deep State stop using those tactics? Wouldn't state actors pile on? Not like there's only one threat covering one line of crimes or criminals - more like a tangle of overlapping lethal threats large and small.

Do you remember reading references to arrows and missiles lately? So much more at stake and you are sick and tired of waiting for a miracle?

People are dying. I can tolerate waiting because I'm sacrificing 188% less than the public was asked to do during WWI or WW2. I can take the silence as it does not shatter my spine or rend my head from my body. Prayers up for all in the fight. I praise God for bringing us this far.

26 posted on 10/16/2020 8:23:58 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
***Wow. This public's trust is not hanging by a thread***

Nothing I have said is intended as an indictment of DJT or his followers. I just wonder if the end of the age is upon us.

27 posted on 10/16/2020 8:41:28 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: aimhigh

................all THINKING and LUCID freepers and Americans KNEW back in the month or two before Election 2016 that THROWING RAGING BULL Trump into the jewelry store was going to make a big mess. Let’s all be patient and give the man the benefit of the doubt until he leaves office.

Nobody in that office has ever tried harder or more sincerely for ALL Americans than Donald Trump.


28 posted on 10/17/2020 5:51:41 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Cen-Tejas

Let’s all be patient and give the man the benefit of the doubt until he leaves office.


Being patient has gotten us another federal grand jury investigating Rudy for jay walking while despite glaring evidence of serious crimes the Biden’s to this day have complete top cover from the GOP Senate and “Trump” DOJ. Patience is the last thing we should have now.


29 posted on 10/17/2020 5:57:15 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

.............the ONLY consideration NOW is getting TRump re elected..............anything that arguably has a possible negative effect on his re election is against all our interest........


30 posted on 10/17/2020 6:07:10 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: enumerated
Any legal indictment that would result from these documents would come from the DOJ, and they already HAVE them. Therefore, any declassification and release is for the public’s benefit - for political purposes.

I disagree. The DOJ has shown they won't act on unpublished documents. The FBI buried the Hunter Biden hard drive, with no intent to act on it. The swamp won't act without public pressure.

31 posted on 10/17/2020 9:55:13 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: ransomnote
***The 'public trust' is hanging by a thread, about to snap. Soon we will either accept servitude of go to civil unrest. And if that happens AG Barr will be a prime cause. I pray that is not the case
Wow. This public's trust is not hanging by a thread***

:^) I wanted to add (after I went to bed) that this reference is to social media - AND many FR threads... plus many have left our thread - all discouraged that there has been little decisive action by DoJ. That led me to mention William Barr - he carries this football almost alone.

We on our thread are the 'clingers' - we hold out against all odds. But undoubtedly time is running out and the maddening 'no prosecution' cases are beginning to mount - not helpful.

32 posted on 10/17/2020 10:07:15 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Bob Ireland

But undoubtedly time is running out and the maddening ‘no prosecution’ cases are beginning to mount
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Do you feel President Trump is losing this election? I believe he is winning. “No prosecution” YET. Many act like the deadline has passed - it hasn’t. The President is campaigning right now and we’re bracing for the Dems attempt to shatter the country when he wins. The public can only handle “so much” information at a time and now, 2 weeks away from the election, may not be the best time to shatter some of their indoctrinated beliefs (Obama - these seas will cease to rise).


33 posted on 10/17/2020 10:14:21 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: AndyJackson
"A verbal order in an admistrative chain of command is a lawful order. "

I doubt that a tweet would suffice. The tweet used the past tense as if describing an act that had already taken place. Is the President allowed to lie in a tweet? Probably.

Some of us remember the so-called Saturday Night Massacre, in which Nixon was forced to immediately accept the resignations of two officials before he found one willing to fire a Special Prosecutor.

If Trump wanted documents immediately declassified and released he has the power to accomplish it within the hour. One must conclude that he doesn't actually want that.

34 posted on 10/17/2020 12:24:21 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: littleharbour

How about right now?


35 posted on 10/17/2020 12:25:59 PM PDT by OKSooner (We are not allowed to criticize George Soros or BurnLootMurder.)
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To: ransomnote
***Do you feel President Trump is losing this election?***

Absolutely not! I do worry about what mayhem that the Dems will try to overthrow the result.

***now, 2 weeks away from the election, may not be the best time to shatter some of their indoctrinated beliefs***

Not sure what you mean, but a little while ago I predicted to bitt that there would be no movement by Barr prior to the election. However, for some of us trusting 'the plan', this no-prosecute of the unmasking scandal is dismaying... why just now?

36 posted on 10/17/2020 1:47:53 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: William Tell

There are only two requirements for an order. Was it communicated and was it lawful [and orders carry the rebuttable presumption of lawfulness].


37 posted on 10/17/2020 3:06:16 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
"There are only two requirements for an order."

I think claiming that Trump has communicated to everybody in the government by tweeting is a bit of a stretch. Is every federal employee expected to monitor every internet web site in order to receive messages from the President?

Further, the scope of the authorization might well be in question. I doubt that every document referenced has the inscription "Russia hoax" on it, for example.

Finally, the language is at best ambiguous since providing "authorization" is not equivalent to ordering declassification. The language used is presumably delegating authority and not dictating action. Can you name a finite list of people authorized by Trump's statement? Is every federal employee now authorized to pick through secure systems and make judgements about whether each document is included in the authorization or not?

Can we agree that such declassification has not occurred? Can we agree that Trump knows this? Can we agree that there are much better ways to order such classification and release? Can we agree that Trump should recognize the weakness of the statement that he made?

I think that we both agree that Trump has the authority to release these documents and the power to do so. If he hasn't done it, I assume that the omission is intentional.

38 posted on 10/17/2020 5:53:59 PM PDT by William Tell
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