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Why the US election could decide battle against climate change
BBC News ^ | October 18, 2020 | By Matt McGrath, Environment correspondent

Posted on 10/18/2020 6:19:45 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Scientists studying climate change say that the re-election of Donald Trump could make it "impossible" to keep global temperatures in check.

They're worried another four years of Trump would "lock in" the use of fossil fuels for decades to come - securing and enhancing the infrastructure for oil and gas production rather than phasing them out as environmentalists want. Joe Biden's climate plan, the scientists argue, would give the world a fighting chance.

In addition to withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement - the international pact designed to avoid dangerous warming of the Earth - President Trump's team has worked hard to remove what they see as obstacles to efficient energy production.

Over the past three years, researchers at Columbia University in New York have tracked more than 160 significant rollbacks of environmental regulations. These cover everything from car fuel standards, to methane emissions, to light bulbs.

This bonfire of red tape has occurred at the same time that the US is reeling from several years' worth of severe wildfires in western states. Many scientists have linked these fires to climate change.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2020; globalwarming; propaganda; socialism
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Yepp. Nothing more than an effort to influence an election without having to make a contribution according to election laws. This is aimed at the demonkkkrap base to help get them to show up at the polls.

“Climate change”, previously the zealots called it “global warming”, is quite a boring subject for the average person that in the end is a theoretical. Riots, tearing down statues, burning and looting, failure to prosecute criminals, - all this happening in one’s city, state or country - that is something the average person has a concern about about as these effects are real, right now - they can be seen and felt.


21 posted on 10/18/2020 7:05:29 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Buttons12

The reality of solar panels on the house and “being off the grid” must mean that the house does not “sell” any electricity back to the utility. It is self-sufficient.

My guess is that the truly self-sustaining, independently powered house is extremely small in number. Most are still connected to the grid. An article in the not too distant past explained in detail that people who “sell back” from their residential solar panels are actually heavily subsidized, i.e. receiving a government “welfare check” for their utilities as the actual cost without subsidies still makes solar significantly uneconomical. And since poor and lower middle class, and many in the middle class cannot afford to install subsidized solar requiring monthly rental checks to rip-off solar companies - these classes are not eligible for the welfare payment now being made to predominantly leftist environmentalists.


22 posted on 10/18/2020 7:18:07 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The only thing that is going to change climate change is the return of solar activity.

Funny, that cycle is likely to return in the next cycle of presidential elections.

But, most people don’t have the understanding of how sun spots impact our weather. And if you try to explain it...they look at you like you are explaining UFOs are from Alpha Centauri.

(Of course, EVERYONE knows that the Greys are from Pellides.)


23 posted on 10/18/2020 7:23:43 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: gibsonguy

It begs the use of logic ... why only the western states ... why not everywhere if it is climate change .... which is “global”, no?

But hey, let’s play their game ... the fires that have occurred during the riots in demonkkkrap cities is cause by climate change too. (PS - Funny that - the left has not demanded an environmental impact statement before a riot could begin, or illegal immigration, nor don’t oppose them on environmental grounds.)


24 posted on 10/18/2020 7:25:08 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Bon of Babble

I see that u live in CA. Does the gov’t impose a hefty tax for solar?

I live in mtns with lots of fog/clouds (seems like a lot). We appreciate the sun.


25 posted on 10/18/2020 7:41:27 AM PDT by Karoo
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To: gibsonguy

That was the lead story on SeeBS Sunday morning.

Hurricanes and wildfires caused by “climate change.”

Like there NEVER were hurricanes before over the centuries or wildfires in the American West.

SeeBS Sunday morning used to be one of my favorite shows. Now, it’s unwatchable because of it’s constant leftward tilt and the fact that it’s hosted by Mrs. Doonsbury, aka Jane Pauley.


26 posted on 10/18/2020 7:47:24 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Wipe ANTIFA off the face of the Earth. Indict Soros, too...their sugar daddy.)
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THIS part IS true, “”impossible” to keep global temperatures in check.””

It is IMPOSSIBLE to affect climate change. The erff is HUGH.
The weather systems, ocean currents, volcanic eruptions, El Nino, La Nina, etc. are complex and all controlled by ALMIGHTY GOD and uncontrollable by “man”.


27 posted on 10/18/2020 7:52:33 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: unread

“Scientists studying climate change say that the re-election of Donald Trump could make it “impossible” to keep global temperatures in check.”

Good, I could use more days at the beach.


28 posted on 10/18/2020 7:52:49 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How do the “scientists” plan to control the sun’s output?


29 posted on 10/18/2020 7:56:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (When seconds count, social workers are days away.)
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Sorry, climate alarmists. The trillion tree campaign answers the carbon dioxide problem. We’re going to use trees to suck it out of the atmosphere. A whole lot less expensive than giving up fossil fuel. Notice, in the following entry, that Donald Trump’s in on this deal. Looks like you climate alarmists are going to have to fret over something else. Here’s an idea: mispronouncing Kamala Hariss’ name. It’s KAmala like COmmunist. Not KAmala like CApitalist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillion_Tree_Campaign#One_Trillion_Tree_initiative


30 posted on 10/18/2020 8:06:30 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am so sick & tired of this nonsense and the jelly fish republicans let them get away with it. Some idiot pollsters have convinced the GOP, it would be very bad for them to dispute the junk modeled science. They’d be labeled as “deniers”.

They don’t mention over 31,000 & growing scientists are disputing that made-made CO2 is effecting the weather. They don’t even offer the stats from NASA, the EPA, all the alarmists. Look it up. In 1980 CO2 in the atmosphere was 330 ppm (parts per million) and at the end of 2018 it was 409. That’s a difference of 79 PARTS PER MILLION. What kind of moron would believe that a difference of only 79 ppm is having a significant effect on the world’s climate?

It could even be more ridiculous. In all these article they don’t break down whether these extra 79 ppm are man-made or the entire CO2 difference. The % of CO@ that is created naturally is @ 95 & and 5 % man-made. So if that 79 ppm is all CO2(which I believe it is), then man’s contribution to the CO2 since 1980 is maybe 5 ppm ???


31 posted on 10/18/2020 8:10:32 AM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Fossil fuels" will be a primary source of energy, both for transformation of raw materials into finished products, and the production of electrical energy for decades if not centuries to come.

What are termed as "fossil fuels" are actually nothing of the kind, as most petroleum is formed by abiotic means in the Mohorovičić Discontinuity, the boundary between the stony outer crust of the earth and the hot magma layer beneath it. This region is subject to thousands if not millions of highly reversible reactions between water and carbon-bearing minerals, with the water acting as superheated steam, in which the hydrogen becomes almost a plasma, and the carbon is dissociated from other carbon-bearing compounds, and combined into various forms of hydrocarbons, which then seep upward and are trapped in the cooler layers of the stony crust of the earth.

This is the same process that is used in laboratory and to a limited degree in industrial application. to produce hydrocarbons from organic waste. It is known as "Thermal depolymerization", and is a continuous ongoing process.

Add to that the continuous reclamation of methane from decomposing organic material, which in conditions that exist in very deep bodies of water, forms a strange methane-water lattice compound, Methane Hydrate, which has a density GREATER than the water in which it is found, and sinks to the bottom of the body of water. It may only exist at temperatures below about 40 degrees Fahrenheit, and the constant temperature at the depth of most large bodies of water is 38 degrees Fahrenheit. Once it warms, the lattice that holds the methane bound between the molecules of water collapse and a bubble of methane rises into open air.

It is estimated that there is some four times the amount of methane (natural gas) retained in these accumulations of Methane Hydrate, than in all the natural gas trapped in the petroleum wells and strata that may be opened up by fracking. We shall NEVER run out of methane as a fuel.

32 posted on 10/18/2020 8:30:58 AM PDT by alloysteel ("The Best Is Yet to Come "- theme of 2020 RNC)
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To: Buttons12
As would I, if I could find a contractor who isn't a fly-by-night crook.

My Queens co-op decided to install solar panels on the buildings to provide electricity for the public areas of the complex---outdoor lighting, laundry rooms, office, maintenance room, etc. Panels were installed on the buildings' roofs, sometimes causing water leaks into residents' apartments. Everyone was assessed $1000, even if you didn't vote for solar power. I think they probably chose the company to do it because they were someone's brother in law or something. If anything, the maintenance charges went UP, not down. I think solar power is vastly overrated and overpriced. Just glad I'm outta there.

33 posted on 10/18/2020 8:37:36 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Karoo
I see that u live in CA. Does the gov’t impose a hefty tax for solar?

The CA government imposes hefty taxes on virtually everything here so I'm sure solar panels aren't exempt. They're very expensive.

We've had rolling blackouts here - not in my town, fortunately, but I've known plenty of people who had their electricity cut off during the past heat wave when the grid was overloaded.

My brother says he's able to run his a/c 24/7 with the solar panels - and has the battery back-ups too - and even sends excess power into the city power grid (for which he is not compensated).

34 posted on 10/18/2020 12:35:22 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, Baby!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Along with the Joseph Gobbles type propaganda, is this...

The Soros Doctrine:

“The main obstacle to a stable and just world order,” Soros has declared, “is the United States.” Ergo, that constitutional republic must be weakened and its allies degraded. The Sorosian world order—one of open borders and global governance, antithetical to the ideals and experience of the West—could then assume command."

Kill Capitalism and support Globalism.

35 posted on 10/18/2020 12:41:56 PM PDT by yoe (Vote for President Trump!..Keep America Great and protected by the US. Constitution.)
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To: Redmen4ever
"It’s KAmala like COmmunist. Not KAmala like CApitalist."

:)

36 posted on 10/18/2020 3:50:47 PM PDT by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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