Posted on 12/19/2008 9:48:45 PM PST by Red Steel
Motion for Subpoenes for Obama BC issued in WA state, case to be heard by the full court. BO announces vacation in HI
COMES NOW, James E. Broe, Kenneth R. Seal, Robert Baker, Mark Sussman, Stan Walter, Bill Wise, Andy Stevens, Ed Crawford, Jason Lagen, Louise Workman, Jocelyn Murcelli, Mike Murcelli and Kevin McDowell, by and through counsel of record Stephen Pidgeon, pursuant to RAP 17.3(a), the Rules of Discovery, CR 26-37, and CR 45 governing the issuance of subpoenas, and Move this Honorable Court for an order allowing the issuance of two subpoenas for the purpose of obtaining admissible evidence in this case, and expediting discovery pursuant to the proposed schedule.
Relief Requested
Plaintiffs seek an Order allowing plaintiffs expedited discovery by means of two subpoenas, one to be served on the Secretary of State of the State of Washington, to discover the following items: I) the Declaration of Candidacy of Barack Obama as filed in the State of Washington; 2) all records concerning the candidacy and disallowance of Socialist Worker’s Party candidate Frank Colero within the Secretary of State’s office; and one to be served upon the Director of the Department of Health in the State of Hawaii, to discover the following items: 3) the Birth Certificate of Barack Obama in Hawaii, and 4) all supporting documentation regarding the registration of the birth of Barack Obama in Hawaii. Plaintiffs seek an order which establishes the following schedule.
1. Plaintiffs are to serve the State of Hawaii Department of Health with a Subpoena in the form attached hereto as approved by the Court no later than the close of business on Monday, December 22, 2008, and responses shall be served upon Plaintiffs’ ‘counsel. no later than the close of business on December 28, 2008.
We'll have a court of law, issuing a subpoena for pertinent information, in order to attempt to verify Obama's eligibility for office. That's a big step in the right direction, whether it meets with initial success or an appeal to a higher authority is necessary.
Whew! June would have been a really suspicious delay!
What do we know about the judge?
I don’t think Pidgeon used any of the dual nationality subject in his case.
This case needs to be heard by the WA SC. I don’t think SCOTUS will touch it if the state court doesn’t. We need a lower court win to force the hands of the SCOTUS Justices.
The en banc hearing on whether to hear the case is in front of all of the state Justices.
He made it sound like the discovery motion was also going to be decided by the entire court.
Curiosity’s sources for “proving” that 0bama is qualified for the presidency and anyone doubting it is a tinfoil hat wearing kook are:
Fight the Smears
FactCheck
Media Matters
0bama owned and hard left anti-conservative sites!
Thanks for playing, curiosity - and oh, BTW - I’m curious about something. Are you a volunteer for 0bama, or paid? And if paid, is it hourly or a salaried position?
You are assuming that the Obama camp has responded with a Certification of Live Birth. To my knowledge they have only responded with arguments against providing anything.
In Theory, a certified (paper) copy with a raised seal and registrar's signature on the back, would be sufficient to prove birth in Hawaii, or elsewhere. Even a "Late Registration" Would, unless the original information was falsified, show the correct location for the birth. However because of the relative ease of such falsification, a Certification based on such a late registration will not be accepted, such as for a US passport, without additional documentation, whereas a long form certificate might be.
Unless she doesn't resign until 'Bama is crowned, she won't be a Sinator by then.
Hawaii law only requires an order from a court of competent jurisdiction, not necessarily a Hawaiian or Federal court.
This probably bears on the issue:
Stands to reason that a court in one state, if they are to give full faith and credit to records of another state, must be able to order such records or copies thereof produced as a way of "proving" them.
Unless one argues that the other state's court is not one of competent jurisdiction, Hawaii law requires the records be provided pursuant to an order from such a court.
Agreed. I don’t think it matters if we find out before the inaugeration or after. The net result is the same. If he is ineligible, he is simply not president. The office is vacant, and I suspect if Biden had by then taken the oath of office as veep, he would immediately be sworn in.
So are you saying that it's okay for him to take office before he proves he is a natural-born citiizen? Shouldn't the 2nd revolution occur before he is inaugurated if he doesn't show he is qualifieid to hold office? It's his responsibility to come up with proof -- not our responsibility to dig up his birth certificate. All he has to do is show it. Why burden the people with what might be an impossible task when it falls to the candidate to prove himself/herself worthy of office?
No I am not saying that. I absolutely think he should show it. The original, not a copy. The burden of proof lies upon him. American citizens have doubts. If he had a shred of decency he would be glad to ease people's minds. Problem is, he doesn't have one shred of decency. Only self absorption.
Once we got the foot in the door, insofar as some court agreeing there is an issue here that requires adjudication, then an appeal to the Federal court system would be all that is needed.
Regardless of it being a state-to-state issue, the federal law trumps all state laws, and if a fed court says “hand it over” they got no choice.
Citizenship poll still needs Freeping.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2150011/posts
I haven’t checked the results lately because I am on dialup for the time being and theres tons of bloatware there.
What is amazing to me is the number of people who are willing to hand over the reigns of power to the least qualified person that can be found. Just amazing.
High school classmate, George Orme: “He had a worldly view. He would talk about people in Pakistan and was a lot more aware of Middle East politics than anybody I knew. He was following conflicts around the world and talked about it all the time.”
Imad Husain a Pakistani and Obama’s freshman roommate at Occidental
Mohammed Hasan Chandoo a wealthy Pakistani friend of Obama when he was a freshman.
Wahid Hamid a wealthy Pakistani friend of Obama when he was a freshmam. Hamid and Obama traveled to Karachi, Pakistan after graduation from Occidental.
Sohale Siddiqi is identified as “Sadik” in Obama’s memoir, Dreams From My Father, and is described as “a short, well-built Pakistani” who smoked marijuana, snorted cocaine and liked to party. Siddiqi was from Karachi, Pakistan, and Obama’s roommate when he attended Columbia University. Siddiqi was not a student at Columbia (and illegally in the US at the time, per BO).
Yes, that is wierd! What a strange collection of people he chose to surround himself with.
Full Faith and Credit clause does not require state #2 to obey every order issued by state #1 - state #2 is always able to re-examine the validity of such issues as personal jurisdiction over the defendant(s), which is clearly absent here. Lots of cases establish this principle.
If Obama submitted a declaration of cadidacy in the State of Washington, he subjected himself to the jurisdiction of the State of Washington for purposes related to the election. Therefore, there is personal, subject matter and venue jurisdiction.
Perhaps he did, but I was talking about the State of Hawaii government officials.
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