Posted on 12/19/2008 9:48:45 PM PST by Red Steel
Motion for Subpoenes for Obama BC issued in WA state, case to be heard by the full court. BO announces vacation in HI
COMES NOW, James E. Broe, Kenneth R. Seal, Robert Baker, Mark Sussman, Stan Walter, Bill Wise, Andy Stevens, Ed Crawford, Jason Lagen, Louise Workman, Jocelyn Murcelli, Mike Murcelli and Kevin McDowell, by and through counsel of record Stephen Pidgeon, pursuant to RAP 17.3(a), the Rules of Discovery, CR 26-37, and CR 45 governing the issuance of subpoenas, and Move this Honorable Court for an order allowing the issuance of two subpoenas for the purpose of obtaining admissible evidence in this case, and expediting discovery pursuant to the proposed schedule.
Relief Requested
Plaintiffs seek an Order allowing plaintiffs expedited discovery by means of two subpoenas, one to be served on the Secretary of State of the State of Washington, to discover the following items: I) the Declaration of Candidacy of Barack Obama as filed in the State of Washington; 2) all records concerning the candidacy and disallowance of Socialist Worker’s Party candidate Frank Colero within the Secretary of State’s office; and one to be served upon the Director of the Department of Health in the State of Hawaii, to discover the following items: 3) the Birth Certificate of Barack Obama in Hawaii, and 4) all supporting documentation regarding the registration of the birth of Barack Obama in Hawaii. Plaintiffs seek an order which establishes the following schedule.
1. Plaintiffs are to serve the State of Hawaii Department of Health with a Subpoena in the form attached hereto as approved by the Court no later than the close of business on Monday, December 22, 2008, and responses shall be served upon Plaintiffs’ ‘counsel. no later than the close of business on December 28, 2008.
In the immortal words of Sr. Sheets Byrd (D-WV) "While these (impeachment charges)rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, I'll not vote to remove." Jan, 1999.
If he has a Kenyan birth certificate, is there anyway to view the records in Mombassa?
If HI refused to comply with a subpoena, the court could, and should, contrue that as an admission that what the plaintiff alleges is true.
It ain’t that simple. You can’t have courts in one place issuing orders that people in other states or other countries have to jump to obey. The plaintiffs in this case could have filed in Hawaii which would be able to compel Hawaiian government officials to do whatever the local court ordered.
Yes, it really is that simply. If HI chooses not to comply, and Obama refuses to provide the documentsa; there is no legal reason preventing the WA SC to grant the petition for a writ of mandamus or declaring that Obama is not qualified.
Why do I distinctly remember Sector voting “NOT PROVEN”?
I do not want to get too technical with you, but it does not work that way. You need personal jurisdiction over someone to enter a valid order against them, and I do not see how a court in any other state can gain such jurisdiction over a Hawaii official. There is then nothing to appeal.
And, yes, I am a lawyer - practicing for 35 years.
The State of Washington has personal jurisdiction over Obama. The birth certificate information is relevant to the matter at hand.
In any event, the WA SC can order the Sec. of State to comply with the law to require that Obama prove he is qualified. While a subpoena of his birth records would be best, the petition for a writ of mandamus is to require the SoS to obtain the info regarding Obama’s BC.
If HI can’t be required to produce it, the state can require Obama to do so.
I disagree with you here. If, after Jan. 20th, Obama is proven to not be a “natural born citizen” by whatever procedure, do you really think Pelosi, Franks, Reid, Clinton (her memories of Bill’s impeachment haven’t faded), Kennedy, et al would allow/bring charges of impeachment against him? They would excuse it away or “the next time we do something” or some other lame excuse, and nobody would challenge them.
No NO NO!!! Huma1 - We will sue them in the mountains, we will sue them in the valleys, we will sue from the hedges, we will sue them where they sleep. We will never give up.
Aside the from joke, if we scream loud enough, long enough, and in enough numbers with our own Committee of Justice to watch over them, we have a chance at getting him impeached. They will respond to pressure. We just have to deliver more of it than they have ever felt in their vile lives.
that’s assuming stanley ann decided to inform the state of hawaii of what was going in indonesia... there’s no evidence she actually did so or that she even would...
LOL Yes, we will continue until all background papers are provided and verified. BTW, today is the date (Monday, December 22, 2008) that the papers are supposed to be presented “by the close of business” to Obama’s team. I wonder if/when we will hear if they were.
Also, I hope the part that says, the response is supposed to be presented “no later than the close of business on December 28, 2008” is a typing error on this post. My calendar shows Dec. 28th as a Sunday. Would that invalidate the orders?
People are sometimes forces to do exactly what they do not what to do. Human history is full of examples. If Zero were proven ineligible Congress would have to act it could not be ignored.
Don’t you wish. Still with the same disinformation and avoiding the issue.
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