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Crimea Is Ukraine
U.S. Department of State ^ | February 26, 2023 | NED PRICE, DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON

Posted on 02/26/2023 10:40:21 PM PST by familyop

PRESS STATEMENT

Nine years ago, Russia invaded Ukraine and seized Crimea – a clear violation of international law and of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States welcomes the efforts of Ukraine’s Crimea Platform to focus global attention on Russia’s continued occupation. The United States does not and never will recognize Russia’s purported annexation of the peninsula. Crimea is Ukraine.


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To: familyop

If the U.S. Department of Deep State said it, the opposite must be true.


41 posted on 02/27/2023 2:00:42 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: McGruff

If it’s to be global nuclear war, it will be initiated by the same aggressor that invaded its neighbor. Russia has an ostensible “no first use” policy regarding its strategic weapons. If Putin breached that policy, he and he alone would be responsible for starting such a war. Rest assured, if Putin does start it, we would finish it, with an even worse outcome for Russia than it is experiencing from its blunder in Ukraine.


42 posted on 02/27/2023 2:13:31 AM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim IgnatowskD)
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To: Nextrush

Pretty accurate. NeoCons were originally Trotskyites fro New York.


44 posted on 02/27/2023 3:41:14 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: McGruff

Russian nuclear threats anymore are so tiresome.


45 posted on 02/27/2023 3:44:26 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman; Zhang Fei

The US and NATO have troops in Ukraine. It isn’t much of a secret.


46 posted on 02/27/2023 3:52:40 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: buwaya

Barbarians never understand civilized behavior.


47 posted on 02/27/2023 3:55:02 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: familyop

Sudetenland ist Deutschland. (Which actually is Putin’s argument: Ukraine is Russian.)


48 posted on 02/27/2023 3:57:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: familyop

It’s amazing how many historical ignoramuses out there will say it’s Russian.

The Russians tried to suggest Romanian was a Slavic language too and Romanians were descended from them. They even forced the Cyrillic language on them.

Russians are liars.
Always have been, always will be.


49 posted on 02/27/2023 4:00:21 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: buwaya

Russians are everybody’s friendly neighbor.

They are evil Mongols who can’t function in civilized society.

The American Ghetto is better at humanity than they are.


50 posted on 02/27/2023 4:02:14 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: MeganC

“”The US and NATO have troops in Ukraine. It isn’t much of a secret.””

Who, where, doing what?


51 posted on 02/27/2023 4:03:19 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: familyop

Grab some more yachts.


52 posted on 02/27/2023 4:26:46 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Apparatchik; Who is in charge?

The problem with this logic is, Russia unilaterally redrawing its borders in order to make its “no first use unless Russia is directly attacked” doctrine redundant.

Nothing stops them pulling the same trick on any other country.

Zaporozhzhia was annexed in a ceremony in Moscow despite Russia controlling only the low population rural south of the Oblast. Less than a quarter of the adult residents of the Oblast pre invasion even got invited to vote.

There’s more than twice as many people in Zaporozhzhia city who would’ve almost certainly voted against annexation than voted for it.

So the referendum is illegitimate in every conceivable sense BUT it enabled the fait accompli of Moscow saying if NATO puts boots into Zaporozhzhia city - a city they’ve got no control over at all - that’s exactly the same in their eyes as NATO tanks rolling into the Red Square. Nukes are an option.

The arguments to the effect that, well, the West has done some truly naughty stuff in the past therefore why shouldn’t we let Russia pull a stunt like this, miss the existential problem with it.

Even the USSR understood that when nations with nukes start arguing over which one of them “owns” a disputed territory, all it takes is one side to put an unacceptable presence in the disputed area to trigger a nuclear exchange from the other.

So the final arbiter of who is in charge of which ex Soviet country has to be the population of that country, and its government, and its president.

Russia’s future is for Russia to decide; Ukraine’s future is for Ukraine to decide. Neither has any legitimate claim over the territory of the other.

That principle was enshrined into the Belovezha and Budapest agreements.

Dumb-as-stump Putin puffing armchair generals on both sides of the USA/Russia borders make ridiculous biased assumptions around it. The cognitive dissonance is absurd.

If Russia annexed Mexico then America would go postal. If America annexed Ukraine, Russia would go postal. Yep.

But they’re okay with Russia just redrawing Ukraine’s borders over a vodka or two, claiming Ukraine territories that quite clearly don’t belong to them are now Russian, and Ukraine (entirely in accordance with international law) calling on two key NATO partners to honor the Budapest agreement by coming to their aid.

Difference between Russia and NATO is, NATO was in Ukraine at Ukraine’s invitation, in accordance with signed agreements. Russia is in Ukraine in violation of every one of its signed agreement from the last 45 years.

If signed agreements hold no weight at all in Moscow, then peace negotiations with Moscow are meaningless.


53 posted on 02/27/2023 4:30:04 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: familyop

Yep.


54 posted on 02/27/2023 4:41:41 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I just saw the pressure is ramping up for Ukraine (US) to go on the offensive.... its all falling into place nicely for MIC


55 posted on 02/27/2023 4:46:01 AM PST by MrRelevant
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To: wardaddy

Bump


56 posted on 02/27/2023 4:53:11 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: jimwatx; Zhang Fei
jim, you wrote And no this situation is not similar to Vietnam, Vietnam wasn’t situated on the US’s border where it might have presented a threat. If Vietnam was Mexico the US would have never tolerated the Russian and Chinese involvement that close to home.

Let me break it down for you

  1. you talk about Mexico - but the USA is not threatening to annex Mexican territory. Mexico has zero fear that the USA is going to threaten to conquer its territory

  2. Adding on to the top point, is that the USA does not say "Mexico is an illegitimate state and should be part of the USA" - as Putin says about Ukraine

  3. Ukraine was not a threat to Russia/Muscowy when Putin invaded in 2014:
    • Ukraine was not going to join NATO - it was rejected in 2008 by Germany and France for fear of "provoking Russia" - and they were not going to change their mind before Putin widened his invasion in 2022
    • Heck, NATO troops and weapons weren't permanently kept in the Baltics or Poland until after Putin invaded Ukraine in 2022
    • NATO had zero intentions of invading a nuclear powered Russia - and there was no case of any NATO country even interfereing in Russia
  4. Russia and China both involve themselves in Cuba and Venezuela

57 posted on 02/27/2023 5:07:58 AM PST by Cronos
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To: familyop

“Crimea Is Ukraine”

When asked if Kosovo is part of Serbia, Mr. Price replied “No Comment”.


58 posted on 02/27/2023 5:11:35 AM PST by BobL
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To: ansel12

NATO has had a training facility near Lviv for years. Poland recently admitted to having troops in Ukraine, and there’s plenty of video showing Americans fighting for Ukraine.

But we call them Little Green Men which Russia should understand.


59 posted on 02/27/2023 5:13:27 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: familyop

Apparently not.


60 posted on 02/27/2023 5:40:12 AM PST by TheElectionWasStolen
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