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UPSET GUN OWNERS SET TO DUMP BUSH
Worldnetdaily ^ | April 17, 2003 | By Jon Dougherty

Posted on 04/17/2003 12:53:55 AM PDT by Uncle Bill

Edited on 04/17/2003 1:47:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Upset Gun Owners Set To Dump Bush

Shooters angered with White House support for firearm ban

Worldnetdaily
By Jon Dougherty
April 17, 2003

Unhappy with President Bush's decision to support continuation of a controversial gun ban passed during the Clinton administration, many gun owners say they'll dump Bush in 2004 and vote for someone else if he signs new legislation extending the prohibition.

Angel Shamaya, founder and executive director of the KeepAndBearArms.com website, said in a single day some 4,300 people responded to a poll on the site asking if respondents would continue to support Bush if he renewed a ban on so-called "assault weapons," initially passed in 1994.

According to polling results by midday yesterday, that figure had climbed to near 4,900 people, with most – more than 93 percent – responding "no" to this question: "If Congress votes to re-authorize the 1994 Clinton/Feinstein federal so-called 'Assault Weapons' ban, gives the bill to President Bush and he signs it into law, would you still vote for him in his bid for re-election to the presidency in 2004?"

Less than 7 percent said they'd still support Bush if he aids in reauthorizing the legislation.

The 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, among other things, banned the manufacture and importation of certain military-style semi-automatic rifles, dubbed "assault weapons" by bill supporters, while limiting magazine capacity to just 10 rounds. It is considered a crowning achievement for anti-gun groups, but to get more support, the bill's sponsors inserted a 10-year sunset provision, which takes effect in September 2004 – weeks before the general election.

Gun rights groups like the National Rifle Association were hoping the GOP-controlled Congress would allow the law to expire. The current Congress and administration are considered the most gun-rights friendly in a more than a decade, but Bush's comments last week threw that presumption into doubt. White House spokesman Scott McClellan told Knight-Ridder newspapers that the president "supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

"There is no such thing as gun control, only incremental gun prohibition," said Brian Puckett, co-founder of national gun-rights organization Citizens of America, of the ban itself. "Gun owners must grasp another political reality, which is: Allowing the government to get away with dictating the features of some guns sets the judicial, legislative and psychological precedent for allowing them to dictate the features of all guns."

"Our gun-rights organization, along with many others, took a stand for Bush in and after the 2000 election," Shamaya told WorldNetDaily. "From urging even Libertarians and third-party voters to support him to helping account for 'lost' military votes in case it came down to that, we fought to turn the Texas governor into a president. If supporting a semi-automatic rifle ban – the Feinstein/Clinton gun ban, no less – is how he intends to repay us, he's lost his marbles."

While the results of the KABA poll are non-scientific, they do provide a glimpse into the angst of gun owners. As WorldNetDaily reported, some lawmakers and gun-rights advocates are also upset with Bush's stance.

"I was surprised and disappointed to learn of the report of the president's support for continuing the ban on homeland-security rifles, aka semi-auto rifles," said Larry Pratt, executive director of Virginia-based Gun Owners of America, a group with 300,000 members nationwide.

"I am also puzzled. Why would George Bush want to help Democrats? The issue, when it was opposed by most Republicans, cost Democrats the House in 1994 and the White House in 2000," Pratt said. "Banning the homeland-security rifle is pure Washington, but anti-Constitution and anti-homeland security."

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, also decried the current ban and does not support the president's position to renew it.

Gun-rights supporters voiced their opinions to WorldNetDaily regarding Bush's decision.

"I will not vote for [Bush] if this ban is in place by Election Day," one WND reader said. "I am a Republican who will vote for a Democrat if I have to, if they fight against this bill. All of my conservative, gun-owning friends are exactly the same as me."

"Recently we saw on TV our soldiers handing out AK-47s to Iraqi volunteer cops," said another reader. "Our government handing out AK-47s to people they do not know, folks that have not passed an FBI background check … Yet our government would fall over backwards before even suggesting that Americans arm themselves. Quite hypocritical, I think."

"I've said long ago that 'we'd see' about Bush on guns when this opportunity finally came about," said another. "What a non-surprise. One could wrap a dill pickle in a Godiva Chocolate box and bow, but the contents remain the same. …"

Not all gun owners have criticized Bush's decision.

"He stated during the campaign he supported the law. I am pro-guns and pro-NRA, but I agree that Bush should support this assault-weapons ban," said one reader. "When in Washington you have to pick your fights carefully and this is not one worth expending political capital on."

Gun-rights activists were also upset by the president's stance because it comes at a time when a new series of lawsuits against gun makers is being launched by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and others.

One retailer/activist, Concealed Carry Inc., of Oak Brook, Ill., has even begun a campaign to "cooperate with the NAACP" and is refusing to sell firearms to blacks.

"I am going to use the broad authority granted me as a federally licensed gun dealer to prevent straw purchases by denying sales to African-Americans. To insure fairness, there will be no exceptions," said John Birch, president of Concealed Carry Inc. He said he'll continue to ban sales to African-Americans "until the NAACP asks us to, at which point we will be pleased to resume sales."

"We must let Bush and the Republican party know that if they don't support our rights we will either refuse to go to the polls or we will vote for a third party," Puckett said. "If you give them your vote even when they sell you out, they'll keep selling you out."

"President Bush created the so-called Homeland Security Department, yet he wants to continue a ban on homeland-security rifles and has done nothing to protect the sieve laughably called a border," Shamaya added. "Bush's support for a ban on semi-automatic rifles is a vote to leave patriots in this great nation with inferior defensive capabilities."


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As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban


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To: TLBSHOW
Frist voted for Lautenberg? That's not what I have here.

The GOP Sinate that traitored on the bill were John Chafee(Who's was for a total ban), Mike DeWine, Peter Fitzgerald, Dick Lugar, George Voinovich, and John Warner.

Frist did back trigger locks, and I don't care for that, but it's not a make or break with me. I'll just throw them away.(I believe anything that messes with a trigger mechanism is poor gun safety)

Frist did vote for the final bill though

941 posted on 04/17/2003 9:38:49 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Uncle Bill
bump
942 posted on 04/17/2003 9:41:04 PM PDT by FreeSpeechZone
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To: Mo1
Then say hello to Queen Hellary .. I guess the 8 year nightmare will Bill wasn't enought for ya huh?

Tell it to the President, it wasn't my choice. What else can I say? Tough? So what? Oh well? You just aren't swaying me with that. Blackmail is like terrorism. Never negotiate with it.

943 posted on 04/17/2003 9:45:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (2nd Amendment - either you are for it or you are against it.)
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To: technochick99
He should hope Congress bails him out? I am concerned with Congress "supporting" the admin. by passing the bill

I'm waiting to see what happens there. I'm concerned about it though. The Senate will pass it if it gets going unless I'm suprised.

The House I think CAN beat it. It largely depends if W pushes for it, how many rural dems break and go with Dingell, and how much of the GOP tells Bush no deals.

I'm not too worried about Mike Rogers. Some good news.

944 posted on 04/17/2003 9:47:55 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: nopardons
Too bad.
945 posted on 04/17/2003 9:48:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (2nd Amendment - either you are for it or you are against it.)
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To: TigersEye
Tell it to the President, it wasn't my choice. What else can I say? Tough? So what? Oh well? You just aren't swaying me with that. Blackmail is like terrorism. Never negotiate with it.

You are the one who votes for President ... so if we get another 8 years of the Clinton's .. it will be YOU that I blame.

946 posted on 04/17/2003 9:48:46 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Well ... the only way the ballot box can be denied, is if we let it become unimportant. It is our responsibility as citizens to know who the candidates are and what they stand for.
947 posted on 04/17/2003 9:48:51 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Woahhs
"Support me anyway" isn't going to cut it with the democratic union members et al. who've voted Republican for the last several elections.

Yes, I wonder how many Democrat union members voted for W against union wishes simply because of the gun issue. Quite a few last time around. They aren't usually part of the gun lobby vote.

948 posted on 04/17/2003 9:52:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (2nd Amendment - either you are for it or you are against it.)
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To: Woahhs
That's up to the President now isn't it?

Sorry .. I heard this BS in 92 and just look at we got .. we end up losing even more rights and had the highest tax increase ..

Yep .. that was such a great plan .. showed them Republicans didn't ya?

It is you that that's votes .. you want to throw your vote away that is your choice .. sure hope you can live with Queen Hillary ... because she will take more then your AK47 away ..

949 posted on 04/17/2003 9:53:25 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: CyberAnt
I've missed one election in my life, and it was an uncontested school board race. That's it. I've made all the others.
950 posted on 04/17/2003 9:54:33 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Uncle Bill
get serious. Bush is so much better than anybody else you could
get that you don't even need to try!
951 posted on 04/17/2003 9:55:52 PM PDT by scott91
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To: Mo1
because she will take more then your AK47 away ..

They are already taken away without a class III(Since they are full auto).

952 posted on 04/17/2003 9:56:04 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Mo1
You are the one who votes for President ... so if we get another 8 years of the Clinton's .. it will be YOU that I blame.

OK, blame me then. You haven't changed my mind. Pres. Bush is responsible for his actions and that is something I take into consideration when I vote for someone. His actions.

You can FReepmail me hate letters for the next 8 years, if he votes for reupping the AWB I won't vote for him.

953 posted on 04/17/2003 9:56:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (2nd Amendment - either you are for it or you are against it.)
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To: NMC EXP
Uncle Bill is no "voice in the wilderness". He's a wolf in conservative clothing.

He doesn't care about guns anymore than he cares about any of the other crap he pollutes the forum with. He's out to turn as many Republicans as possible against Bush by pretending he's a closet leftist.

It's a lie. He's a liar. And the stakes are too great to lick the leg of every malcontent with an agenda.

954 posted on 04/17/2003 9:57:04 PM PDT by Deb (Democrats stole my green sweater.)
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To: TigersEye
We don't need to convince you to withhold your vote. We are simply giving ample warning that we will.

Did you withhold your vote in 2000?

955 posted on 04/17/2003 9:59:05 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: FreeReign
No, I voted for Bush. Why do you ask?
956 posted on 04/17/2003 9:59:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (2nd Amendment - either you are for it or you are against it.)
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To: TigersEye
OK, blame me then. You haven't changed my mind. Pres. Bush is responsible for his actions and that is something I take into consideration when I vote for someone. His actions.

And you are responsible for your own actions .. hope you can live with NO GUNS when Queen Hellary is elected because you and I both know that is what will happen

BTW .. I don't do hate freepmail

957 posted on 04/17/2003 10:01:36 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: TigersEye
What I stated is not only factual, it is sometehing that everyone should know. It's very recent history.
958 posted on 04/17/2003 10:01:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mo1
BTW .. I don't do hate freepmail

That's nice to know.

959 posted on 04/17/2003 10:03:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (2nd Amendment - either you are for it or you are against it.)
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To: nopardons
What I stated is not only factual, it is sometehing that everyone should know. It's very recent history.

I am aware of all those facts. So what?

960 posted on 04/17/2003 10:04:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (2nd Amendment - either you are for it or you are against it.)
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