[BobL]

Good posting, kind of matches what I posted two weeks ago here (re-posted below). I REALLY don’t like people saying that we’re the problem when we get double-crossed by our leaders at every opportunity.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3310574/posts

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The Republicans had 10 Years to Stop Trump; now it’s too late (vanity)

The only reason that Trump is leading the pack is because the Republican Party will not lift a finger to stop what is (correctly) perceived as a foreign invasion that is quickly transforming this country into a Third World Cesspool. This started at least a decade ago when Bush-43 began his Amnesty efforts and has not still not stopped.

The invasion is very convenient for those involved, as it has the potential to bring millions of new voters for the Democrats (as their brainwashed union-voters get old and die) and millions of new, low-wage and reliable workers to Republican business leaders.

It was the perfect combination for the leaders of both parties. But just one problem: The country did not want it! And not just Republicans, but Democrat voters too. So what did the parties do? The Democrats stuck with the transformation, figuring that political power was much more important than the security of the country (nothing at all new there). Republican leaders, even though they were looking down the barrel of being driven from power for decades, if not generations, still salivated over the fact that there was big money to be made from these new workers. Not only were they good, they helped drive-down wages for the entire low-end of the labor force, helping US businesses be competitive with foreign, low-wage countries.

Democrat voters, these days, while still not crazy about the country being transformed, seem willing to accept it as the price of driving the Republicans (or Christians, as they really see us) from power. But Republican voters have only gotten angrier and angrier. They see no benefit in a few rich fat-cats getting even richer, while they see their beloved country disintegrating right before their eyes. And since Republican voters generally have kids, they are scared to death for those kids and grandchildren, something that Democrat voters don’t have to deal with (ok, a few Democrats may have made the ‘mistake’ of having kids, as they see it).

But even given that the Republican voter anger at Open Borders is boiling over, Republican leaders simply laughed at them, figuring that the only reason Republican voters were complaining was because of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and other conservative media egging them on. So they ignored us...and ignored us...and ignored us, as we didn’t represent the real Republican base. Republican victories in 2010 and 2014 helped cement this view – how could we Republicans do so well if we weren’t addressing their concerns? I’ve always said that Republican leaders a lot dumber than Democrat leaders, and this is certainly one example – obviously the 2010 and 2014 Midterm votes were a anti-Democrat vote – Republicans would have voted for a horse if he was up against a Democrat in those years.

Which brings us to today. Rush’s initial reaction to Trump was that he was snake oil salesman, given his history of playing both sides – he was rightly suspicious. But Republican voters are tired of waiting for the second coming of Reagan and will take anyone that has the willingness and the capability to address Open Borders. Trump fits that bill, clearly having the money to get his word out, over the media, and saying what we want to hear. My point here is that Republicans were ahead of Rush on Trump...their support for Trump has nothing at all to do with being “egged on” by Rush, Fox, Beck or anyone else. On this issue, at least, the support is real.

So now what? The initial reaction of the Republican leaders had first been to try to ignore Trump, but that was impossible because the Democrats and the media didn’t go along with them - they seemed to think that Americans just love Open Borders, and so Trump was making a total fool of himself (and the party) - so they would amplify it. Huge mistake on their part. Also, with the Republican leaders (and almost all of our candidates) being totally transfixed by their multi-million dollar efforts to increase our share of the Hispanic vote from 27% in 2012 to 27.01% in 2016 - they were horrified by the thought of having someone out there publicly having a problem with Open Borders and the killings of Americans by Illegals, so they stepped up to the task of trying to destroy him. Needless to say, they instead stepped into it. Instead of crushing him, they amplified his message (as if that were needed) and helped drive him into the lead.

But not all of them stepped into it. Cruz, I suspect, quickly figured out that Trump (or at least what he represents) is not going away that easily, now that the genie is out of the bottle on this issue. If Trump is drummed out of the Republican Party, say in favor of Jeb being the candidate, then Trump runs as a Third Party candidate and virtually assures that Jeb loses in November (and there is a very good chance Trump could win in a three-way race). If Trump doesn’t run Third Party against Bush, then someone else will - maybe Tom Tancredo, for example, because even proponents of serious border security have to be floored by just how important the issue is for voters - everything they’ve heard prior from their ‘advisers’ (most of them gay, by the way) kept saying that Americans have tantrums over the border, but quickly get over it - and that, for example, the issue of adjusting the formula for food stamp benefits in counties with a Native American population of between 7.28% and 12.65% of the total population is much more important to them and can be carried all the way to November. This border stuff...just a few blowhards on the radio, and that can’t last.

So what happens now will be totally different from 2008, or 2012. If an Open Borders type is nominated (aka, Jeb) or someone that seems to take multiple sides of the issue (Romney, Walker), there will be a Third Party challenge - it may be Trump, it may be Buchanan, it may be Tancredo, but it will be someone and they will get a lot of votes, virtually assuring the defeat of the Republican. But if Cruz, Trump, or someone else trusted on border security runs as the Republican (although I can’t think of any others), then it may well be a 2-person race, and the Republican candidate may well get a huge turnout from Republican voters and even a lot of crossover voters, as there are millions of Democrat types that would also like to see some sort border security.

This will be fun.

[Caipirabob]

Ditto...good post.

For several months we’ve been hearing how they were going to push Jeb Bush on us and he has been out giving speeches on how he’d ignore the conservative base and forward a shameless progressive agenda.

The only support bush has today are liberal crossovers and intentional statistical glitches made to create an illusion of support. Spineless Rubio is the backup plan.

Given the choice I see no alternative other than total scorched earth political war on on the GOPe.

They are the dinosaurs and we need to become the meteor.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Amen!

[ballplayer]

Wrong,AMERICA has no one to blame but itself for electing democrats for 60 years that have implemented communist policies,now to finish it off the most anti- American President in history signs a deal where we will be financing our own destruction,you couldn’t make this crap up if you tried

[weston]

This article nails it.

[tflabo]

A good read-— just disagree that Trump is a stalking horse for Hellary. If that’s true then its one helluva stunt by a billionaire who has better things to do than waste his time and resources on a BS bender.

[48th SPS Crusader]

Based on current polls Trump would lose the general election if he got the nomination because his negatives are sky high

Yeah hold on to that thought.. Obama won re-election after 4 years of running America into the ground.

[Fresh Wind]

Republicans have no one to blame for Clinton except themselves.
Republicans have no one to blame for Obama except themselves.
Republicans WILL have no one to blame for Hillary except themselves

[Vaquero]

To say the Republican Party is damaged is a massive understatement.

The party needs to be supplanted by a tea party just as the republicans did with the Whig party.

The party is over and needs a proper burial

[tflabo]

There sure is an oppressed and mistreated minority in the nation and it is we. Over trashed, over taxed, unappreciated and under represented. Yet we have the answers and solutions to make the nation great. Give Trump credit for courting us true conservatives. We will hold him accountable if its all a big snow job but right now he’s garnering our goodwill and trust. Do what’s right Donald and don’t betray us like the other RINO drecks.

[kalee]

Exactly what I have been saying and I am not a Trump supporter. The sad thing is that it is doubtful the GOP will figure this out.

[MuttTheHoople]

The reason the GOP is playing Prison Sissy to Barack Obama's Big Boss Man, is because Barky has FBI, NSA, etc. files on all his opponents and know that if they oppose him, everyone will find out which Asian ladyboy they've been diddling.

It's no coincidence that the Conservatives toughest on Obama and the Democrats are either relative newcomers (Ted Cruz), women (Sarah Palin, Carly Fiorina), or someone so morally upright and decent that there's nothing they can put on them.

[octex]

Very good posting! Your intro first made me think you were a troll, but I continued reading and found the item to be pro-conservative. ...You’re sneaky.

[dfwgator]

Yep, the “Party of Bush” only has itself to blame.

[nathanbedford]

You can only screw the people so many times before they get wise. The Democrats have managed to do that to their Black base for over half a century. It appears that the white, non-college working class Republican base is wising up faster.

The great Republican landslides by Nixon and Reagan came from the same source: blue-collar, lunchpail Democrats. I'm not advocating that we adopt Nixon's political philosophy but the man knew how to count votes and how to get votes. I have, however, often argued that the candidate who captures issues of middle-class jobs and relates them to Democrat policies of environmental madness at the EPA, of job killing regulations at Obama care, of job stealing trade deals and job stealing amnesty, could recapture that middle-class demographic and win the White House for a generation.

Now Donald Trump has done exactly that to the astonishment of rinos, Democrats, and pundits, in short the entire professional political class was blindsided. The rinos are not stupid they just figured they could talk conservative and govern establishment for yet another cycle but they simply miscalculated.

It is clear that the old shell game played by the Rino establishment is being flatly rejected by the base of the Republican Party but what is not yet clear is whether Trump's campaign will have equal power with lunchpail Democrats. This campaign is not exclusively Trump's, of course, both Cruise and Walker have been on the right side of these issues but Trump has broken through the clutter. He has done so at the cost of making himself personally of noxious to a huge portion of the Republican electorate and therefore he remains:

The wrong messenger with the right message

If Cruz or Walker can ignite the same passions and spread the flames to the hard-pressed Rust Belt, and the hard-pressed coal belt, one of them can easily gain the nomination and win the election when Trump falters as he inevitably will. We simply do not yet know whether these issues will gain traction with working Democrats as they have with Republicans.

[GoldenPup]

Republicans have no one to blame for Trump except themselves

What's to blame? Americans perceive in Trump someone who will fight for them, not some candy-assed bullshit artist like most (not all) of the other candidates.

[Alas Babylon!]

People don’t think that unlimited immigration of poor people, many of whom are welfare cases, criminals or unskilled laborers taking American jobs is a good idea.

Let me add to this:

I think we all need to STAND UP to the "Undocumented Immigrant" confabulators and demand that the TRUE TERM Illegal Alien be used.

It is ILLEGAL to sneak across ANY country's controlled border, or to get a tourist visa knowing you won't be returning when you signed the official document stating so, it is ILLEGAL to steal someone's social security number so you can get work, it is illegal to make or knowingly purchase counterfeit documents so you can get work, an apartment, a driver's license, or welfare.

For anybody knowingly doing the above, one has to wonder where do they draw the line and actually FOLLOW the law?

Do they:
Drive drunk or high?
Purchase or sell illegal drugs?
Steal or burglarize in order to steal?
Rob people?
Rape?
Molest children?
Murder?

These people sneaking into our country are not necessarily yeoman peasants just looking for work. They KNOWINGLY committed a criminal act to get here. Yet they decided their own needs were more important than merely following the laws of this country.

Let us take back the language and frame this as it truly is!

[ThunderSleeps]

I don't know what the motives are behind the players but... One thing you can say about Trump is that he is (or has made himself) a lightning rod for the venom and vitriol of the left.

When was the last time you read/heard something negative about Trump from a socialist libtard? Probably just have to look at your watch. When was the last time you heard something similar about one of the other GOP candidates? Might have to look at a calendar...

For better or worse it is Trump setting the libtards' hair on fire right now and the stinking socialist/fascist left is focused on destroying him, rather than another candidate. For that, and the wake up call / slap in the face he is giving America, I love him. Want him as President? Not too sure about that just yet. Want him as a candidate? Oh h**l yeah!

[Sam Gamgee]

He is a certainly full of wind, but lacks substance. I just don’t trust Trump.

[Mike Darancette]

Trump is only stiffening the spines of the other nominees. I want to see him in the debate.