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To: sten; MeganC

Suppose a cop stops me on a sidewalk, just for “suspicious behavior”. He demands ID. I will be polite. But I will point out to him that his demand is unlawful. He has no suspicion of an actual crime. He can ask for ID. He cannot demand it.

The cop might say, “I just need your name for my report.” Well, it’s not 1950 anymore. My name won’t go into a manila folder at the station. It will go into a computer database. And who knows what “suspicious behavior” the cop will put in the report? Loitering near a bank? Suspicion of concealing a firearm?

The demand for ID with no crime is repugnant to liberty. And more than that, giving your ID could put you on some “bad boy” list somewhere.

No offense meant to you, sten. I see your point. Crime is spiraling out of control, and good people are searching for ways to control it.


73 posted on 05/12/2024 7:22:30 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

Thank you.

Our liberties were fought for and secured with the price of blood and flesh and bone. It saddens me that so many good men died for our freedom and liberty yet too many modern people would give it all up for a temporary sense of security.

The freedom to go about our country unmolested by law enforcement is unique in the world. That freedom has been eroded in the last so many years.And I for one am happy to see at least some aspect of that freedom being protected and reasserted.

It is also very depressing to see someone assert that it is somehow “shady” to value our freedoms and liberties.


75 posted on 05/12/2024 8:27:48 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: Leaning Right

i hate to burst your bubble but there is absolutely no need for them to ask for your id if they want to just track who you are and where you’re going. they have all that now. the easiest way for them is your cell phone... tied directly to you and updates your exact position as you move. beyond that, they have facial recognition and cameras at numerous intersections, buildings, residential homes, and stores... tied to facial recognition, your license, and your spending habits. add to that voice recognition and everything you say online will be tagged and parsed from you.


80 posted on 05/12/2024 11:58:23 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Leaning Right
Suspicion of concealing a firearm?

In more than half of these Unite States, concealing a firearm is recognized as a Constitutionally protected activity.

84 posted on 05/13/2024 1:45:11 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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