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The Greatest [Who were the top ten composers of all time?]
NY Times Blog ^ | January 7, 2011 | ANTHONY TOMMASINI

Posted on 01/09/2011 7:12:24 AM PST by Pharmboy

YOU know that a new year has truly arrived when critics stop issuing all those lists of the best films, books, plays, recordings and whatever of the year gone by. These lists seem to be popular with readers, and they stir up lively reactions.

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Yet in other fields, critics and insiders think bigger. Film institutes periodically issue lists of the greatest films of all time. (“Citizen Kane” seems to have a lock on the top spot.) Rock magazines routinely tally the greatest albums ever. And think of professional tennis, with its system of rankings, telling you exactly which player is No. 1 in the world, or 3, or 59.

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Imagine if we could do the same in classical music, if there were ways to rank pianists, sopranos and, especially, composers. The Top 10 composers of all time. Now that’s the list I have secretly wanted to compile. It would be absurd, of course, but fascinating. My thinking about this was shaken, though, last spring, when Mohammed e-mailed me. That’s Mohammed Rahman, then a freshman at Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan. He was writing a paper on why people have different musical tastes, and he wanted to interview me. His questions were so thoughtful that I met him at a cafe.

Mohammed picked my brain about how my tastes had been formed, about what I looked for in good music. Inevitably we came to the question of how it gets decided that certain music, certain composers are the best. And of course some really are. I’m open-minded but not a radical relativist.

So if you were to try to compile a list of the 10 greatest composers in history, how would you go about it? For me

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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: bach; beethoven; chopin; mozart; zappa
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To: WILLIALAL

Once you die you cant be considered a composer. You are in fact a decomposer.


21 posted on 01/09/2011 7:43:33 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Pharmboy

In my opinion, Mozart is the greatest. Others that I like are Dmitri Rakhmaninov, Modest Mussorgskii, Pyotr Chaikovskii, Charles Gounod, and Gioacchino Rossini.


22 posted on 01/09/2011 7:45:06 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Pharmboy

The masters with their undisputed masterpieces in parentheses:

Bach (St Matthew Passion, Mass in B minor)
Mozart (late symphonies, Great Mass, Don Giovanni)
Beethoven (Sym 9)
Haydn (Creation)
Schubert (Sym 8)
Bruckner (Sym 9, Te Deum)
Mahler (Sym 2)
Brahms (Sym 4)
Chopin (piano sonatas, nocturnes)
Wagner (Ring)

More heavy hitters: Rossini, Verdi, R.Strauss (could continue on)


23 posted on 01/09/2011 7:45:17 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: WILLIALAL

Yep...agree with you there. The article’s author makes a good point on Chopin: genius though he was, he just wrote (really) for piano. I would still put him as number 4.


24 posted on 01/09/2011 7:46:45 AM PST by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: chickadee

Freddy Boom Boom Cannon


25 posted on 01/09/2011 7:46:57 AM PST by Jim Noble (Third Bank of the United States: Ever wonder why they didn't call it that?)
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To: Salamander; 50mm; Markos33; JoeProBono; Slings and Arrows; humblegunner; Eaker; Allegra
I forgot to add an honorable mention at #11 for the leader and composer (I forget his name just now) of the Progressive Rock/Fusion/Techno/Punk-Funk band, "Hammerfrog."
26 posted on 01/09/2011 7:48:20 AM PST by shibumi (Sleeping amphibians are TASTY! (burp!))
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To: Pharmboy

I’d put Mozart at the top, and find a spot for Tchaikovsky and Debussy, because there is a place for the tunesmith.


27 posted on 01/09/2011 7:48:51 AM PST by steve8714 (Firing Federal Bureaucrats would have a 1000x beneficial effect on the deficit, naybe more.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Roger Waters


28 posted on 01/09/2011 7:49:02 AM PST by orlop9
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To: Squidster
Listen to Holst “The Planets.” Then listen to John Williams’ Star Wars soundtrack.

mars rover to mars holst the planets

It's great but I prefer Williams

PIANO - John Williams - Jurassic Park theme song - ending theme

29 posted on 01/09/2011 7:50:01 AM PST by Errant
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To: shibumi
I don't think Frank Zappa belongs on a list that includes Sibelius, Brahms and Mussorgskii, but I do like his opus, "The World's Greatest Sinner," recorded by Baby Ray & the Ferns in Cucamonga, Calif., and released on the Donna label in 1963. You can listen to it here.
30 posted on 01/09/2011 7:50:27 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Pharmboy

Bach, Mahler, Stravinsky, Haydn, Mozart, then whatever...


31 posted on 01/09/2011 7:50:32 AM PST by paulycy (The Constitution is a Formal Contract. Live up to it or lose your job, Congress.)
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To: bmwcyle

Holtz? Why not Grieg or Grofe? I had to perform “The Planets” in various school orgs, secondary and college. No, thanks.


32 posted on 01/09/2011 7:51:55 AM PST by steve8714 (Firing Federal Bureaucrats would have a 1000x beneficial effect on the deficit, naybe more.)
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To: Jim Noble
"Freddy Boom Boom Cannon"

Oh, my.
33 posted on 01/09/2011 7:52:04 AM PST by chickadee
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To: buridan
Bach first. What can compare to his Mass in B Minor?

Nothing.

34 posted on 01/09/2011 7:52:20 AM PST by paulycy (The Constitution is a Formal Contract. Live up to it or lose your job, Congress.)
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To: Jim Noble
Freddy Boom Boom Cannon

I once met Freddy Cannon in a TV studio. My favorite opus of his is Buzz Buzz A Diddle It (1961).

35 posted on 01/09/2011 7:55:37 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: my small voice
“Seems like we are, at best, becoming more distracted or, at worst, losing brainpower or inspiration.”

My personal opinion is that people like Mozart, Beethoven, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci etc. were intense and driven by the desire to do things beyond themselves. There are clearly ‘intense’ people today, but they tend to be those who are intensely ambitious and want to do things to advance themselves, not reach out beyond themselves. The kind of intensity that pushes people to look for meaning in life and existence is often denigrated in our ‘modern’ society (witness the denigration of religion and the push toward secularism). People are more likely to be passionate about who won American Idol than they are about finding the meaning in their own lives.

36 posted on 01/09/2011 7:55:45 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Pharmboy

J.S. Bach (genius on all fronts)
Beethoven (introduced spectacle to music)
Haydn (nice)
Chopin (thoughtful)
Tchaikovsky (melodramatic, but catchy)
Bernard Hermann (music/film unity)
Lennon/McCartney (changed modern culture - for better or worse - lots of classical references)
Hank Williams (the Shakespeare of country music - classics in their own way)
Handel - (Alleluia!)

Number 10 - The hundreds of unknown writers of folk songs from many countries. They gave music to all.

Never liked Mozart or Vivaldi. Sorry.


37 posted on 01/09/2011 7:56:14 AM PST by P.O.E. (A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?)
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To: chickadee

And the winner is: Chickadee with the VIVALDI vote, IMHO!


38 posted on 01/09/2011 7:56:33 AM PST by Concerto in D
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To: Pharmboy
Mozart is #1, and so far beyond everyone else in greatness that words just cannot suffice.

After Mozart there are quite a few greats. In no particular order: Beethoven, Bach, Verdi, Wagner, Rossini, Haydn, Chopin, Tchaikovsky ...

ML/NJ

39 posted on 01/09/2011 7:57:10 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Pharmboy
Digital Dream Door has a pretty good list...

Top 100 Composers of all Time

40 posted on 01/09/2011 8:03:51 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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